Town vs Gown - version 0.4 on campaign server.

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Town vs Gown - version 0.4 on campaign server.

Post by tw » March 30th, 2007, 9:29 pm

I'm intending to make a campaign provisionally titled Town vs Gown. It will follow the fortunes of the fellows and students of the University of Abesford. A riot between them and the townspeople results in their fleeing east, in the hope of finding a place to found a new university.

So far I only have the map of Abesford and the concept for the first two scenarios.

1) A group of bandits attack the town, the townspeople and university ally uneasily to defeat them. Just a gentle introduction, mainly to show Abesford in its 'pristine' state.

2) The main riot between the townspeople and the university, resulting in the latter's flight eastwards.

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The 'castles' are the university's colleges. Ignore the start positions, that's just for testing purposes.

The units for the university will initially be elves, mages, and possibly necromancers.

I'm particularly interested in ideas or scenarios for events to happen on the journey. They need not be original - if you have already written something you think would fit well let me know.
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Post by Glowing Fish » March 30th, 2007, 11:46 pm

Well, I have to give you points for plot originality!
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Post by Changeling » March 31st, 2007, 11:20 am

Why Town vs. Gown?

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Post by Temuchin Khan » March 31st, 2007, 1:53 pm

Changeling wrote:Why Town vs. Gown?
Well, to spell it out: townsfolk vs. those who wear the academic gown.

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Post by tw » April 1st, 2007, 10:36 pm

Well it's not finished properly yet, but here's the first scenario.

TODO:

Most of the victory and defeat conditions. So far only 'Death of any of the University" works, albeit in spectacular fashion.
Make the bandits target the colleges.
Try and fix it so they can only rob each castle tile once.
Make Swiftfoot have more movement, and not stay in his keep all the time.
Change the bandits from chaotic to lawful, since they're a group known for daytime operation.

Also a few more plot ideas. It's mainly a mages' campaign, which might make the tactics interesting. In my experience mages are strong in offense but weak defensively. Necromancy will figure in some scenarios.

The group will split; some will head east to found a new uni, others will head north, but turn back and retake Abesford. I'll let the player choose which thread to follow first, but both must be completed.

There is hopefully going to be a scenario titled "Spiders on a ship". No prizes for guessing the movie it will parody.
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Post by Darn Penguin » April 2nd, 2007, 12:54 am

tw wrote:There is hopefully going to be a scenario titled "Spiders on a ship". No prizes for guessing the movie it will parody.
Well, just be careful with that. While parodies are technically protected speech, the BFW folks get really jumpy around the concept of potential copyright infringement.
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Post by Ultimatum479 » April 2nd, 2007, 11:48 am

tw wrote:Try and fix it so they can only rob each castle tile once.
I haven't tried building a campaign or even a map yet, but I know there are plenty of campaigns with treasure chests that only the player's side can reach. Why not just put treasure chests on every castle tile and make it so your men can't pick 'em up?
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Post by tw » April 2nd, 2007, 12:41 pm

Nice idea, though there's a risk of it looking silly.
Another I considered is to have the bandits also turn the castle into ruined castle; problem with that is there's no no dwarven ruined castle.
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Post by Ultimatum479 » April 2nd, 2007, 12:50 pm

It can't look silly if you edit the chest sprites to be the size of a pixel.
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Post by tw » April 2nd, 2007, 1:48 pm

Well I have the first scenario fully playable.

But I'm still having a little trouble with the AI. I still need the bandits to target the colleges properly. So I need a way to have them go for certain locations, terrain types, or possibly items if I implement it that way.

Now to do the next one. Which won't be the main battle, that's been pushed back to the third.
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Version 0.2 on campaign server

Post by tw » April 3rd, 2007, 4:20 pm

Version 0.2 is now on the campaign server. There are two scenarios, the second is in serious need of balancing, it's too hard at present.
My campaign, Town vs Gown, under development:
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15822

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Post by tw » April 9th, 2007, 2:00 pm

Following the forum's hiatus, version 0.3.1 is on the server, with 3 _working_ scenarios. And I'm working on the fourth right now.
My campaign, Town vs Gown, under development:
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15822

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Post by Ewan » April 9th, 2007, 5:48 pm

Very much enjoying (as an academic!) the setting.

However, I really *hate* the persistant inability to recall. Scenario 2, OK, I understand and agree with the limit to new undead - but why cannot they then be recalled for the flight in scenario 3? Annoying.

Otherwise, bravo :).

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Post by tw » April 9th, 2007, 7:25 pm

That's a bug, Ivesi SHOULD be able to recall his undead in The Riot, possibly along with the units in Daylight robbery, though not hire any new undead.

I'm working on scenario 4 now, which is a standard defeat-the-enemy-leaders job. And I'll try and fix the recall issue too.
My campaign, Town vs Gown, under development:
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15822

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Post by tw » April 10th, 2007, 1:04 pm

Version 0.4 on the server. Ivesi's recall list now works.

Unless I do more today, there won't be any further updates until the 21st April at the earliest.
My campaign, Town vs Gown, under development:
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15822

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