Help wanted with new campaign: the element of earth

earthmage · Post by **earthmage** » June 10th, 2006, 5:55 pm

Hi I had an idea for an campiagn and I could work a stroy out but will need help for the rest.

It would start with a attack on the dwarves (any sujetions for the faction attack would be helpful)
It's believed that the dwarves found acient runes whit inscriptions on it that explain how to master the element of earth. Now the ... wan't to steal it from them. One dwarf that discoverd the most runes need to bring them to safty. They get help from the order of mages . The running would be the first scenerio. If somoene likes the idea all help is welcom!

Many greets

ME (the earthmage)

scott · Post by **scott** » June 10th, 2006, 6:24 pm

1. Finish the storyline
2. decide how many scenarios there will be
3. Write down what happens in each scenario
4. Decide what the sides are in each scenario

If you do that, IN THAT ORDER, you will be 90% done.

Custom units and graphics take a little work, and I recommend you use all mainline units at first for placeholders. Once the WML for the campaign is done, you can add custom units later.

Post by **Ken_Oh** » June 10th, 2006, 8:31 pm

Yeah, my advice is just to start making a campaign, post it here and then you should get some volunteers to help you.

Disto · Post by **Disto** » June 10th, 2006, 9:12 pm

Ken Oh wrote:Yeah, my advice is just to start making a campaign, post it here and then you should get some volunteers to help you.

Won't work. Look at my campaign for proof of this.

Post by **Ken_Oh** » June 10th, 2006, 9:26 pm

Disto wrote:
Ken Oh wrote:Yeah, my advice is just to start making a campaign, post it here and then you should get some volunteers to help you.
Won't work. Look at my campaign for proof of this.

I don't understand. Are you talking about A Seed of Evil? There was code help all throughout the thread.

scott · Post by **scott** » June 10th, 2006, 9:36 pm

SOE failed due to lack of a finished plot before Disto started. Thus my advice. I have never seen a campaign fail because of lack of WML knowledge, but I have seen lots of campaigns reach 0.1 (based on a cool idea) and stop. Many have reached 1.0, but much less than the number attempted.

Post by **turin** » June 10th, 2006, 9:56 pm

Here's what you must realize when making a campaign:

No one will do it for you.

People may give you WML advice, and you may be able to get some artists to make some sprites. But YOU are going to be doing all of the work - although people may give some help, no one is going to "join the team" - no one will write whole scenarios of WML for you, or write a plot for you, or publish it for you. Making a campaign is a solitary venture. You are going to be making the maps, writing the scenarios, writing the dialogue, and bringing it all together. If you don't have the skills, time, and patience to do this, you will fail.

I am probably discouraging you with this... but making a campaign is hard work, and you should realize this before you start. It will probably take several months to get all the scenarios done, and even then you aren't finished.

earthmage · Post by **earthmage** » June 13th, 2006, 12:57 pm

Thanks for the tips you all.
I am willing to do all that turin but i just have 1 problem. I am i the midlle of my exams so it will have to wait a while after that it will be working whole day's long:).

Greets

kiet · Post by **kiet** » June 13th, 2006, 5:34 pm

Then just wait until you are done with all of that and begin creating stories,is it so hard?

earthmage · Post by **earthmage** » June 15th, 2006, 11:14 am

Yes it is hard becous i love wesnoth and examens yust suck(sorry for the offensive talking.) So i lookt at the map of wesnoth and the wesnothian history and it acccured to me that there are mountains and a big swamp in the eastern lands. So I was thinking(whats kind a big wonder) and i took a quick look at the history and it accured to me that there is almost no history in the east so what about there. Like thet the dwarves are attacked by saurains that are forced to do this by tha mystic sauns.(the sauns would be some kind of saurains that are higly developt and live in the middle of that big eastern swamp.) Would this be possible if it is I could work out the story line a little and then divide it in scenerios.

Greets

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » June 15th, 2006, 11:47 am

earthmage wrote:Yes it is hard becous i love wesnoth and examens yust suck(sorry for the offensive talking.) So i lookt at the map of wesnoth and the wesnothian history and it acccured to me that there are mountains and a big swamp in the eastern lands. So I was thinking(whats kind a big wonder) and i took a quick look at the history and it accured to me that there is almost no history in the east so what about there. Like thet the dwarves are attacked by saurains that are forced to do this by tha mystic sauns.(the sauns would be some kind of saurains that are higly developt and live in the middle of that big eastern swamp.) Would this be possible if it is I could work out the story line a little and then divide it in scenerios.

Greets

WRONG (this is a common misconception due to events in eastern invasion)

to the east is mountains and desert however Mal Ravall (Or whatever his name was) made it into swamp when he moved there and started summoning undead.

In said desert there will be (eventually) a faction called the Ayiri who used to be Westfolk (read turin's new history for details)

However, if you set you campaign at about the time of eastern invasion, and maybe include an undead reference or two, then you should still be able to do it.

earthmage · Post by **earthmage** » June 15th, 2006, 12:37 pm

But then it would be unpossible to have some high developed sauns becous then the swamp yust exists and it would be impossible. OR the linch-lord would have pulled saurians out to there to giht for him. And by his interfierence some of them took a bit of he's magic and that speeded there evolution. But mayby thats a little to farfetch'd.

greets

Post by **turin** » June 15th, 2006, 2:28 pm

Ranger M wrote:WRONG (this is a common misconception due to events in eastern invasion)

to the east is mountains and desert however Mal Ravall (Or whatever his name was) made it into swamp when he moved there and started summoning undead.

Yeah... it is extremely irritating. Even the official map of Wesnoth has swamp in that area...

Ranger M wrote:In said desert there will be (eventually) a faction called the Ayiri who used to be Westfolk (read turin's new history for details)

Actually they are not going to be called the Aiyira, but rather the Saracens. Well, their name will eventually be changed, but they won't be called the Aiyira.

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » June 15th, 2006, 2:30 pm

turin wrote:Actually they are not going to be called the Aiyira, but rather the Saracens. Well, their name will eventually be changed, but they won't be called the Aiyira.

Really?

*me never made connection between the Saracens (or whatever their current new name is) and the Aiyira*

Post by **turin** » June 15th, 2006, 2:31 pm

Ranger M wrote:*me never made connection between the Saracens (or whatever their current new name is) and the Aiyira*

That's because there is none.

The mistake you made is assuming that the Aiyira go on the Great Continent, which they don't - they go on the OC.