The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by UK1 » November 30th, 2015, 12:01 am

Okay. I don't know if your other campaigns are done this way, but I really appreciate the absence of early finish bonuses. Here are my thoughts on early finish bonuses:

1: Why make the next level easy/impossible to lose?
2: If the additional gold DOESN'T make the next level easier than you want it to be, then that means you took into account doing well on the LAST scenario to do well on the NEXT scenario. Which is stupid. If you make it to the next scenario, it should be within your power to beat it with the gold you are given at the start.

I really appreciated that aspect. All in all, this is one of the best undead campaigns I've seen. It only loses to that campaign that has Gwiti Hataal (or whatever) on sheer content. On execution, I think this is an excellent campaign for a faction that really gets the short end of the stick campaign-wise (albeit not as much as Drakes).
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by WhiteWolf » December 2nd, 2015, 8:37 pm

Well, at first I couldn't decide whether your were just being sarcastic, but finally, I'm glad that we agree on the topic.

The sequels are designed with early finish bonus included, because I've received too many comments about its absence to ignore, and therefore I changed my mind, and put bonus back (except here). This is balanced by the fact however, that it's practically impossible to finish too early (maybe in easier difficulties, where on the other hand I still think bonus is neccessary for beginner players).
Many players would agree, that bonus is good, because you do not have to click-through all the remaining turns and kill the enemy in the last to receive maximum gold output. This is a strong point to consider.

Anyway, it's nice to see an opinion which fits with my views better ;)

Glad you liked it, still, give a try to the sequels if you find the time,
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by tamanegi » January 9th, 2017, 2:48 am

Hi, I translated this campaign into japanese. :D
Could you add this to the package?
tdok_ja.zip
japanese translation
(113.23 KiB) Downloaded 144 times
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by WhiteWolf » January 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm

Hi, great :D I've added it and uploaded 1.2.2 to the add-ons server. Please check if it works there as well :)
Thanks again, good job :)

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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by tamanegi » January 9th, 2017, 10:53 pm

Yeah, works fine! :D
Thank you!
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by DukeSwampy » July 12th, 2019, 9:05 am

Just finished this campaign, and my rank is 'Lich-Lord' as playing on easy difficulty. In Clash in the clouds' scenario, I killed Raelle on turn 11 (any turn) makes Karlag went to the volcano, but destroyed by the dragon, and moves to the next scenario as well as turn runs out. Defeating Raelle is not primary objectives from that scenario, but is it intended?
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by WhiteWolf » July 13th, 2019, 2:17 pm

DukeSwampy wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 9:05 am
Just finished this campaign, and my rank is 'Lich-Lord' as playing on easy difficulty.
Congrats :) Without looking at the code, I don't remember what is the highest, but Lich-Lord sounds like that's it probably.
DukeSwampy wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 9:05 am
Defeating Raelle is not primary objectives from that scenario, but is it intended?
It is intended. It's kind of a "shortcut" - if you defeat the leader of the enemy forces, they immediately unleash their last weapon, which they would otherwise do when the time runs out. The rest you've seen. :)
I guess I could add defeating Raelle as a bonus objective... I'll try not to forget to do it once getting this ported.
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by DukeSwampy » July 14th, 2019, 12:10 pm

Alright, now I am focused on the ThSeBl campaign.

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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by denispir » December 2nd, 2019, 12:00 pm

I have played (part of) the Ravagers, see huge feedback message on its thread ;-). I thus wanted to try tDoK but could not find it on the 1.14 server... or am I blind?

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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by WhiteWolf » December 3rd, 2019, 3:31 pm

denispir wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 12:00 pm
I thus wanted to try tDoK but could not find it on the 1.14 server... or am I blind?
Because it's not there yet. :) Sadly this entire series is yet to be ported to 1.14. You can find their latest edition on the 1.12 servers. If you decide to give it a go, I can probably answer most issues here and the campaigns are in a generally playable status, but keep in mind that they are no longer getting updates unless there is a game-crashing issue. Feedback is welcome though as I make notes of them for the 1.14 edition. :)

But when are they getting ported? I really don't know. It's taking so long because I want to combine all 5 parts together as a single add-on. This means however that their common mechanics must be revised to be uniform and fit all of them. Also, before I do that, I definitely want to finish Ravagers 1.3 with the new sidequest addition. It's almost ready, but... it's been "almost ready" for months now. My free time is severely limited and I can only make very little progress. I hope, and the emphasis is on hope, that I can finish Ravagers 1.3 by January, and port this series for the summer. Well, 1.16 might be faster than me :D So I'd recommend downloading 1.12 and playing them there, DukeSwampy did just that some time ago.
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Re: The Desolation of Karlag [Development and feedback]

Post by denispir » December 3rd, 2019, 5:52 pm

WhiteWolf wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 3:31 pm
Because it's not there yet. :)
All right, I understand (also the coding side). Thank you for your big work! :-)

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