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[Complete] The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Ladies & gentleman, last quarter of 2010 welcomes you with a special event:
The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition
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:eng: TOURNAMENT NEWS:
- The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition has been successfully finished! - check out the final TGT! announcement & download the TGT! 2nd Edition Replay Pack or TGT! Finals Replay Pack - page 34 of the thread (Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:12 pm)
- Random Noob Gamers [Dauntless & neki] prevail in the Second Final Game of The GRAND TAG! and become The GRAND TAG! Second Edition Champions! (Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:29 pm)
- check out TGT 2nd Edition Finals Organisation Announcement - page 30 of the thread (Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:03 pm)
- TGT! Semi-Finals are over! - check out the results announcement (page 30 of the thread) & download the TGT2ndEditionSemiFinalsReplayPack! (Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:20 pm)
- Random Noob Gamers score the second victory in their matchup against the TGT 1st Edition Champions,Noob Leavers and advance to the Finals as the Alpha Group winners! (Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:41 pm)
- North&South prevails over Ducks of Doom in the 4th game of Semi-Finals and advance to the TGT Finals as the Omega Group winners! (Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:26 am)
- Semi-Finals of The GRAND TAG! have begun! - check out the announcement - page 26 of the thread (Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:19 am)
- The GRAND TAG! 2nd Round Results! - check out the announcement & download the TGT2ndEdition2ndRoundReplayPack - page 26 of the thread (Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:18 pm)
- 2nd Round of The GRAND TAG! is finished! - check out the announcement - page 25 of the thread (Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:46 pm)
- 2nd Round of The GRAND TAG! has begun! - check out the announcement - page 19 of the thread & download the TGT2ndEdition1stRoundReplayPack! (Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:20 pm)
- The GRAND TAG! 1st Round Results! - check out the announcement - page 19 of the thread (Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:29 pm)
- check out the Tournament Tree Announcement - page 7 of the thread (Nov 30, 2010 5:09 pm)

COMING GAMES:
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STATUS:
Registration Phase: FINISHED
Organisation Week: FINISHED
1st Round of the GRAND TAG!: FINISHED
2nd Round of the GRAND TAG!: FINISHED
The GRAND TAG! Semi-Finals: FINISHED
The GRAND TAG! Finals: FINISHED

Current TGT tree:
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1.What is it?
- The GRAND TAG! is a wesnoth default era & settings (except Time of Day) 2vs2 tournament. this edition is meant to be played by 16 teams, grouped in 2 groups (Alpha Group and Omega Group)
- tournament is meant to be played on the latest stable wesnoth version (current stable version is 1.8.5)
- check out The GRAND TAG! 1st Edition thread to learn more about the tournament
2. When it will begin?
- The GRAND TAG! will begin after the recruitment phase - that is since closing the team list
3. What are the general rules of the tournament?
- GENERAL RULE: have fun, respect other players & their time
- tournament will be played with the following tournament elimination system:
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- after team list will get closed, order of the teams will be set by computer program run by neutral forum member and posted in the tournament thread
- winners of Group Alpha will fight against winners of Group Omega for the "Champions" title of this edition of TGT!
- match for a 3rd place is possible if both teams that will lose with the finale players will agree to play for it
- tournament is meant to be played on the newest stable version of the game, with default xp and map settings
- each team plays up to 3 matches in the round, winner of the 2 of 2 OR 2 of 3 is the winner of the round and goes to the next round with losing team eliminated from the GRAND TAG
- team cannot play using the same ip. adress
- subbing one teammate by the other during the game in run is NOT ALLOWED unless opponents will agree on it. Player that is subbed cannot spy enemy team and has to regain control over his troops ASAP
- teams are FIXED, but IT'S POSSIBLE to get 1 substitute player if it's necessary to play out the round, altough in the finale games, substitutions are not allowed
- if one side has technical problems, it has a right to postpone the game ONCE, to continue it after fixing the problem BUT the side, that asks to postpone HAS TO contact the opponents immediately and make an appointment to continue the game in the next 3 days and opponents are meant to find a time to continue the game during this period of time. After this period, if postponing team won't contact the opponents, it will automatically lose the game. It's lex specialis to the rule below:
- both sides can continue the match another day if all players will agree to do that.
- every round lasts 14 days and teams HAVE TO play the round games during this time. If they won't, they can be disqualified from the tournament. It's a superior rule. It means that teams can postpone the game, and every team has a right to postpone a game due to the technical problems, but it's all limited by the 14 days period of each round so think well before postponing.
- round period may be shortened if all the tournament players will agree on it.
5.What are the timer settings?
- 5:00 starting timer, +360s reservoir, +300s turn bonus, no action bonus
6. What are the rules about the maps & factions?
- everybody has to play RANDOM FACTION
- Time of Day has to be FIXED, so don't forget to turn off "Random Start Time" option. It's for sake of map balance.
- map for the first game of the round has to be chosen with mutual acceptation of the both teams, P! team in the the 1st game of every round will be chosen via computer program that will randomize it
- map for the second game is chosen by the team that lost the first game, this team will also decide who will play as P1 team
- map for the third game is chosen by the winners of the first game, this team will also decide who will play as P1 team
- players may chose to play the tournament games from the following default maps:
1st Round maps:
4p Clash
4p Hamlets
4p Loris River
4p Paths of Daggers
4p Xanthe Chaos
4p Underworld
2nd Round maps:
4p Clash
4p Loris River
4p Path of Daggers
4p Xanthe Chaos
3rd & FINAL ROUND maps:
4p Clash
4p Loris River
4p Xanthe Chaos

- modifications & old versions of the maps are NOT ALLOWED
7. Rules regarding matches & forum
- teams are obliged to inform when they will play the game in this topic and allow observers to join their games. Games played in the tournament system has to have a "TGT" acronym, number of the game , number of the round & team that participate in their names !
8. Cheating & rules abusing
- cheating is not allowed, cheating teams will be banned from the tournament
- rules are never perfect, thus bona fides (good will) should be visible in team behaviour, if the team will find some part of the rules not precise , malignant behaviour will be punished by official warning. If the team will still act in malignant way, it can be banned
9. Registration phase & Organisation Week
- Registration Phase starts today (18th Nov), you can join the tournament sending me a PM with your team name. Registration message MUST have full nicknames of the players that will play in the team, it's forbidden to send a registration messages with only 1 player listed in them. Both players have to be registered on the boards to secure fluent communication between the teams! Because number of places in the tournament is limited, time of sending the recruitment message decides.
- this tournament WILL require small part of your time, so please be sure that you will have enough of the free time to participate without causing major problems to the other tournament players & host
- to secure good competition level, first 4 teams that are already registered, were recruited by me in pre-registration phase, including 1st Edition of TGT! champions, the Noob Leavers, thus 12 places left
- RESERVATION: if you want to play the tournament, but you don't have the teammate yet/you're unsure if your team mate will want to parcipate , please post in this thread OR PM me, that you're interested in joining & post in this thread - other players might be in the same situation as you're, this will also reserve you a spot in the tournament for 72 hours period.
- after Registration Phase will end (that is after filling all 16 team spots), Organisation Week will begin
- Organisation Week is, basically, a preparation phase of the tournament, during Organisation Week teams are supposed to contact their 1st Round opponents, set games for the 1st Round of TGT!, learn TGT! tournament rules and train ; Organisation Week is necessary to secure fluid start of the tournament rounds
10. When we can start playing the games ?
- after closing the team list, end of the Organisation Week & official announcement about beginning of the round 1 of the tournament. I (as the host of the tournament) will announce such things
11.Bugs solutions:
a)Movement points bug

- once in a while, when one of the players drops from the game due to technical problems & rejoins, may find out that all his units have 0 movement points, it's very serious bug regarding tournament rules, thus following procedure has to be applied when it happens:
tiboloid wrote: :eng: disconnection bug HOWTO:

1. save the game
2. open another Wesnoth client and load saved game as a replay (check the "Show replay" checkbox at the bottom of the Load Game dialog box)
3. check the "Skip animation" check box at the top of the screen
4. run the replay by clicking on "continuous replay"
5. when you reach the turn of the side before the disconnected guy, click on "pause at the end of turn"
6. save the game and reload.

b)Corrupted replays from reloaded games

- it's a well known fact, that replays from reloaded games are usually corrupted and can't be watched, this problem hits particularly a high level games that tend to be long, thus probability of saving & reloading the game is higher in their case. Still, such a corrupted replay can be repaired:
alpha1 wrote: :eng: repairing reloaded games corrupted replays HOWTO:
From what I’ve figured, the corrupted replay bug is caused by the fact that the after-reload game information is stored in the beginning of the replay file and that wesnoth client fails to recognize that the pre-reload info (which is stored in the end of the replay) must be read first. So in order to fix the replay, those two parts must be brought into the correct order.
  • 1. Extract the replay file from the .gz archive
    2. Open it in a text editor (I used Microsoft Word 2007). There will be 2 pairs of [replay] [/replay] –tags. (The after-reload game info between the first pair, the pre-reload between the 2nd)
    3. Search for the 2nd [replay]-tag, cut everything between the [replay][/replay]-tags and paste it into the beginning of the file (don’t forget to delete those tags afterwards)
    4. Search for the [replay_start]-tags (there will be 2 tags if you reloaded once) and delete everything between 1st and 2nd [replay_start]-tags. (If I understand correctly, that is the game info of the after-reload) This way wesnoth client will not be confused by it and will use the game info of the pre-reload part instead
    5. Add the edited version of replay into the .gz archive (you may need to download 7-zip, a freeware archive program, in order to edit .gz archives, which can be find here http://www.7-zip.org/)
    6. Have fun :)
Enjoy !
- ALL players have to USE AUTOSAVE, if rehost from replay-save somehow won't help, use last avaible autosave & accept different outcome
12.Other cases not included in the rules
- other cases not included in the rules & rules breaches will be decided by me, I want to play the tournament too so I urge other players to save replays from the games, post them here and observe other ppl games to secure maximum level of fairness in this tournament. I also promise that I will make a decisions in the best interest of every player of the tournament - if my team will need some form of GM decision, I will cede my tournament host rights to the other team to get a fair judgement.

LIST OF THE REGISTERED TEAMS:
1.CDeath (Faello & sidzej) GMT+1/+1
2.NFC North (Cutler & Rodgers), mystery knights GMT-6
3.Noob Leavers (grzywacz & deekay) TGT! 1st Edition Champions GMT+1/GMT+1
4.S.P.A.M. (Radament & CragHack) GMT+1/GMT+1 RESIGNED
5.Ducks of Doom (alpha1 & MrHase) GMT+1/GMT+1
6.Miso Hapi (tiboloid & nelson) GMT+10/GMT-5
7.Clong Man and the Gang (Just_end_turn & Rigor) ___/GMT+1
8.Nerds R US (The Black Sword & tekelili) GMT/GMT+1
9.Random Noob Gamers (neki & Dauntless) GMT/GMT+1
10.Entropy (Aisikle & Huumy) GMT+10/GMT+3
11.North & South (plk2 & Nordmann) GMT+1/GMT+1
12.CD (winddog & Chandler_Bing) GMT+8/GMT+8 RESIGNED
13.Instintkillerreturnsagainstronger (thefish & Cremember) GMT-5/GMT-8
14.stardock (merlin74 & mjr) GMT-5/GMT-5 ELIMINATED
15.Mediterranean Piig (Xplorer & Lhurgoyfyy) GMT+1/GMT+1
16.Bastchi (Bast & khiM) GMT+1/GMT-1
17.Unholy_Alliance (soul_steven & Bear_)

RESERVE LIST:
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SUBSTITUTE PLAYERS LIST:
1.Stenen
2.psychic GMT

13. Useful links
Brutalwesnoth - neki's YT channel with video commentaries of games, you will find TGT games commentaries there too
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc - GMT converter to set the games/check GMT easily
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/ - to check the time zones
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx - for GMT to set the games if you like to do the math yourself
http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php ... =Grand+Tag - The GRAND TAG! 1st Edition thread, check it out
14. Request to the forum moderators
Please stick the thread in this forum for the time of the tournament & spread the news about it :)

With best regards to you all,

Faello
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REGISTRATION PHASE ANNOUNCEMENT

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Registration phase
- Registration Phase starts today (18th Nov), you can join the tournament sending me a PM with your team name. Registration message MUST have full nicknames of the players that will play in the team, it's forbidden to send a registration messages with only 1 player listed in them. Both players have to be registered on the boards to secure fluent communication between the teams! Because number of places in the tournament is limited, time of sending the recruitment message decides.
- this tournament WILL require small part of your time, so please be sure that you will have enough of the free time to participate without causing major problems to the other tournament players & host
- to secure good competition level, first 4 teams that are already registered, were recruited by me in pre-registration phase, including 1st Edition of TGT! champions, the Noob Leavers, thus 12 places left
- RESERVATION: if you want to play the tournament, but you don't have the teammate yet/you're unsure if your team mate will want to parcipate , please post in this thread OR PM me, that you're interested in joining & post in this thread - other players might be in the same situation as you're, this will also reserve you a spot in the tournament for 72 hours period.
- after Registration Phase will end (that is after filling all 16 team spots), Organisation Week will begin
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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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This has filled up quick!
Anyway, a 2v2 tournament sounds like fun, so if anyone wants a teammate, I'd like to play. :)

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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Registration Phase already over? phe :) i would like to join if someone (maybe The_Black_Sword..) want play with me?

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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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There's still 1 free spot (2 if MrHase won't play), you can either reserve spot on 72 hours if you're looking for a team mate OR you can register ASAP if you have a team mate and team name :)

Also, it's possible to go to the reserve list (1 team resigned during the organisation week in last tournament and was replaced by team from reserve list)
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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Hey, can me and tekelli register, we're just trying to think of a team name?
Sorry plk.
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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Spot no.8 is reserved, you've 72 hours to confirm the reservation sending me the PM with your team name.
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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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i'm in

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gamelle and me (neki) will like to join if some of the other teams do not confirm. Guys, I really think u should put more slots, or at least consider all the requests, for example make an extra qualifying match between team 8 and a team 9 etc.. Really not fun to be excluded like that, I just didn't know about it, you could at least send some automatic emails for next time :(. We are ladder registered players btw

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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Ok, so here is our team for the TGT tournament:

Name: TheDestroyers
Player 1: neki
Player 2: gamelle

Our contact email: nekirebus@yahoo.com

Hope to destroy you in the tournament, guys :)

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TGT! goes BIGGER&BLOODIER!

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TGT! goes BIGGER & BLOODIER! - :eng: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT! (Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:16 pm)

- due to popularity of the idea of 2vs2 tournament, and positive response from other players interested in participating, I've created another tournament group, thus we'll have 16 teams in this tournament, instead of planned 8
- I'm aware that there is a possibility, that it might create some organisation obstacles, so I decided to create 2 tournament groups to minimize the risk for first 8 teams already recruited - Alpha Group, consisting of the teams recruited in the basic registration process AND Omega Group - group for new teams
- rules have been changed accordingly, thus 3rd Round of TGT! appeared (rest assured, you won't have to spend more time on the tournament - in fact tournament will be slightly longer only for the group winners :) )
- tournament WON'T get bigger than 16 teams
- rest assured, I will keep strict control over both groups to secure best gaming experience for you all*

*so PLEASE register your teams with TEAM NAME & PLAYER NICKNAMES, ignorantia iuris nocet - applications without the team name, just with the players nicknames will be treated as reservations, thus after 72 hours they will be deleted! :)
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Re: The GRAND TAG! - a 2vs2 Tournament, 2nd Edition

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Just a question after have an horrible game with me and my mate as ud. It is ok ask oponents if they are agree with "no mirror inside team" and if they do and some team has same factions, then rmk?

Very nice idea this tournament btw :D
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I didn't specify that in the rules, to give players freedom regarding faction choice BUT I suggest to not make such an arrangements and accept randomness of the random choice OR just pick 1 faction if you're afraid of double UD on your side.

I suggest to not make such an arrangements, because it may be a source of problems & disagreement between the teams later on.
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REGISTRATION PHASE & ORGANISATION WEEK ANNOUNCEMENT

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REGISTRATION PHASE & ORGANISATION WEEK ANNOUNCEMENT(Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:28 pm)
- I decided to put a deadline on registration phase - that is 00:00 of 30th of November 2010, if Omega Group won't be full to this point, tournament will begin as 8-team tournament with first 8 teams from Alpha Group participating, thus I urge players that still want to play, to register & spread news about the tournament
- Organisation Week will begin at 17:00 of GMT, 27th of November 2010 and will last to 4th of Decemeber 2010
- 1st Round of TGT! will begin 4th of December 2010 and will last to 23rd of December 2010
- after 1st Round we will have a Christmas break :D
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