What is wrong with Wescamp?

[TreefeedXavier]

For several days (almost a month) UMC are not updated in wescamp - I know it, as the author of one of them updated version of a month ago, and I still can not get the .po of this campaign on wesnoth.org/gettext (and even github. com/wescamp). I also worried about the fate of my translations sent to AI - he does not reply to any letter (if the procedure for addding UMC changed, specify where to read about it). I really want to help make Wesnoth better and more accessible for various categories of players, but this situation negates all desire.

[Dugi]

As far as I know, nothing is updated there since summer 2014 (or maybe earlier). If you want to get a .po, make it yourself.

[Elvish_Hunter]

If you want to get a .po, make it yourself.

How, exactly?
I'm aware of a tool called WesPo and made by Nobun - it's unofficial, but it should work fine.
I'm also aware of the fact that in mainline we use a Perl script called wmlxgettext, but I never found any documentation about how to run it... I'm aware as well of a Python variant of it, but it was disabled because its output was incompatible with the Perl version.

[Dugi]

How, exactly?

I don't know, but I know that Chewan could do it.

[tamanegi]

AI wrote a comment on how to use utils/wmlxgettext.

The following derivative might be more generalized for Linux (and Mac?). (AtS for example; assuming pwd is the top directory of the addon)

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% find . -iname "*.cfg" -or -iname "*.lua" | xargs /somewhere/wesnoth-version/utils/wmlxgettext --directory . --domain wesnoth-After_the_Storm > wesnoth-After_the_Storm.pot

We shouldn't forget .lua files because they can contain translatable strings, and note that most wesnoth binary packages (ex. Debian) contain data/tools/wmlxgettext (Python) but NOT utils/wmlxgettext (Perl). You can get Perl one from source package or directly from GitHub.

(This AtS example met a minor error on _ANIM_TYPE macro of units/undead/Chaos_Cardinal_Fused.cfg:105, though...)

[iceiceice]

There's some kind of instructions here also:
Wescamp.py_Instructions

[TreefeedXavier]

If you want to get a .po, make it yourself.

But still remains problem with add localized .po to campaign. Or autor can do it?

[TreefeedXavier]

nothing is updated there since summer 2014 (or maybe earlier).

Man disappeared half a year ago and nobody care?

[TreefeedXavier]

I think full instruction "How live without WesCamp & add UMC translations to game" for translators/maintainers must be composed by community, and added to Wiki (or
whatsoever).

[iceiceice]

I think that what has happened is that AI just doesn't have as much time as he used to, I don't think he is "gone" (my info is quite old though.)

I guess there is quite some frustration from UMC translators, I got PM'd like 6 months ago by someone with similar concerns.

I think most likely what should happen is that someone should volunteer to be WesCamp helper / maintainer. I don't know entirely what is involved. I would suggest that interested persons should inquire on IRC in #wesnoth-dev.

If maintaining the existing WesCamp requires extensive permissions to be granted to the entire project and there are no developers that volunteer, then perhaps someone should be promoted? or indeed a parallel WesCamp should be launched, although intuitively we should try hard to avoid this...

There might be a better solution, I'm just throwing it out there.

[aquileia]

full instruction

Well, to get a .pot file, all you need is the command tamanegi posted (you have to change the domain, of course).

To create a new .po file for e.g. German from it, you use

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 msginit --no-translator --input=wesnoth-After_the_Storm.pot --output-file=de.po --locale=de

To update an existing .po file after changes to the campaign, you recreate the .pot file and use

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msgmerge --backup=control --previous -U de.po wesnoth-After_the_Storm.pot

You get the actual translations files Wesnoth uses (mo files) with

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msgfmt de.po --output-file=translations/de/LC_MESSAGES/wesnoth-After_the_Storm.mo

That's all I needed (well, I wrote a script to do it for me).


Edit: Oh, if you're interested in my script for Windows, it's here: https://github.com/aquileia/Anabasis/bl ... /po/po.cmd
However, the language list is hardcoded right now, you have to append whatever you need.
You run it with

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po.cmd wesnoth-After_the_Storm

Edit2: Fixed a path by removing the leading slash - yeah, I'm way too ill to work on anything today...

[TreefeedXavier]

To create a new .po file for e.g. German from it, you use

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 msginit --no-translator --input=wesnoth-After_the_Storm.pot --output-file=de.po --locale=de

To update an existing .po file after changes to the campaign, you recreate the .pot file and use

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msgmerge --backup=control --previous -U de.po wesnoth-After_the_Storm.pot

You get the actual translations files Wesnoth uses (mo files) with

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msgfmt de.po --output-file=translations/de/LC_MESSAGES/wesnoth-After_the_Storm.mo

POedit copes with it all: updating from pot\creation of new .po\and make .mo

Was hard to receive pot from source: 1. I can`t find userdata folder in my wesnoth, so I take add-on from add-ons.wesnoth.org directly;
2. wmlxgettext write to me "access denied" as far I not tick box on file preferences "allow execute" (but I use Thrunar, so maybe it not helpful for everyone);

Now only one problem remains: How to know, which UMC need to translate & nobody not translate it right now or translated already - for it WesCamp was useful source of statistic.

[Chewan]

@ TreefeedXavier

Now only one problem remains: How to know, which UMC need to translate...

… and to whom the translation should be send as long as nobody volunteers to be WesCamp helper/maintainer.

[TreefeedXavier]

@ TreefeedXavier

Now only one problem remains: How to know, which UMC need to translate...

… and to whom the translation should be send as long as nobody volunteers to be WesCamp helper/maintainer.

Maybe to author\maintainer of campaign?

[nuorc]

There's a gettext area on this site.

I don't know how the procedures are supposed to work. I once sent a pm to whom I thought was in charge and never heard back. I've just pm'ed the Forum Moderators if they could link to a description...