Modified Luck in Source Code

[PawelS]

I'm one of those who think that there is too much randomness in this game. But it's open source, so, instead of complaining, I made a small change in the source code that eliminates the luck factor.

[DEATH_is_undead]

I'm one of those who think that there is too much randomness in this game. But it's open source, so, instead of complaining, I made a small change in the source code that eliminates the luck factor.

Just know you can't play Multiplayer.

[PawelS]

Currently I play single player only, but if I find some other people who like to play the same version as me in multiplayer, I guess there won't be problems...

[thespaceinvader]

D_i_u meant to say that you won't be able to play online multiplayer on the official server =)

[scienceguy8]

D_i_u meant to say that you won't be able to play online multiplayer on the official server =)

Just to clarify, when you connect to the server, it checks your software and compares it to an official copy. If the engine differs in any way from the official version, you will be booted off. If you want to play your version with someone else, you will need to distribute it and possibly set up your own multiplayer server.

[PawelS]

Thanks for the information

[Soliton]

Currently I play single player only, but if I find some other people who like to play the same version as me in multiplayer, I guess there won't be problems...

Indeed that will work just fine and of course you can play that on the official multiplayer server. You should mention it in your game title though so others don't get confused when observing and getting OOS.

[PawelS]

Thanks to everyone for giving me advice, but I don't have any plans about starting multiplayer games with my version for now.

[Turuk]

Split to avoid derailing the luck thread, as if had not been enough already. Nothing personal.

[DEATH_is_undead]

Thanks to everyone for giving me advice, but I don't have any plans about starting multiplayer games with my version for now.

You COULD make your own server, and make it only accepts your version... Assuming you could legally do that?

[joshudson]

You could bypass the checks. Don't bother. It will let you play but all games you are in will get Out of Sync messages fairly quickly.

I know. I've messed up and connected a modified version by accident.

[Dalkor]

May I ask how exactly you modified the game and how quality the gameplay is without randomness?

[PawelS]

My change is pretty simple: the combat damage is multiplied by the chance to hit, and then the chance to hit is set to 100%. So it eliminates luck from combat entirely - I wouldn't mind a bit luck, but it was easier for me to eliminate it altogether than to reduce it. I'm aware that it makes slow and poison attacks more powerful (because they always hit and apply their effects to the victim), so there may be balance problems if it's used in multiplayer. There are still some random factors in the game outside of combat, like getting random traits when recruiting a unit, and some events in the campaign scenarios.

In "actions.cpp", after

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// Resistance modifier.
damage_multiplier *= opp.damage_from(*weapon, !attacking, opp_loc);

I added

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damage_multiplier *= chance_to_hit;
damage_multiplier /= 100;
chance_to_hit = 100;

Currently I'm playing the official campaigns and it works well, the combat prediction is displayed correctly (only one possible outcome with 100% chance), and the AI doesn't seem to have problems with it. I like the gameplay with this change because it makes careful planning more important, and it eliminates frustration caused by unfavorable random results Some people may dislike the situation where everything is predictable, but I like it.

(Splitting is ok for me, I didn't expect to start such a discussion when I was posting my comment at the luck thread)

[Euthanatos93]

I like this idea. Makes wesnoth more chess-like. Still, it completely invalidates terrain combat modifiers. Maybe terrain might affect a different aspect of combat to compensate for this?

[innocuous]

Maybe terrain would give a % damage reduction instead.