Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

Feedback for the mainline campaign Descent into Darkness.

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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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Actually, the rats, bats and spiders are supposed to be guardians (as in, not move until you come within range) instead of all charging at you in the beginning, but someone broke that part of the scenario in 1.13 so that's why it's so hard. Expect it fixed in the next release... :whistle:
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on? Hard, 1.12.6
(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) 10
(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? Clear
(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario? Very interesting
(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? Surviving the first bat that comes across my way
(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) 9
(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun? None
(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario? Bad RNG getting me killed on the first rat/bat
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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zookeeper wrote:Actually, the rats, bats and spiders are supposed to be guardians (as in, not move until you come within range) instead of all charging at you in the beginning, but someone broke that part of the scenario in 1.13 so that's why it's so hard. Expect it fixed in the next release... :whistle:
Actually, it's broken in 1.12.6 as well, replay is attached.

(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?
Version 1.12.6, Challenging.

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
3

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Pretty clear.

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
Alright, starts off strong, then sharply declines.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
Counting how many trolls were within striking range of my non-ghost-units.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
7, the exploration and the surprise at the lake are nice. I forgot about the other surprise, might replay it soon.

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
Maybe make it a bit harder. If you have accumulated a decent roster, the missions is extremely easy in the current state.

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
Making very stupid recall choices.
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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Britannicus wrote:Actually, it's broken in 1.12.6 as well, replay is attached.
No, that replay shows them only attacking when you come in range of them. The aforementioned bug was about them coming at you even from halfway across the map.
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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zookeeper wrote:
Britannicus wrote:Actually, it's broken in 1.12.6 as well, replay is attached.
No, that replay shows them only attacking when you come in range of them. The aforementioned bug was about them coming at you even from halfway across the map.
Ah, alright, sorry about the misunderstanding!
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(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?

Challenging, Version 1.14.1

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

6, gold combined with timer if I remember this correctly.

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

Clear.

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?

I liked that beginning, the rest was okay.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

Taking out the only trolls that actively walked over to attack me.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

6, friendly tree was nice.

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

No idea. ^^

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?

Overextending.
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?

- 1.14.5, Normal

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

- 6

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

- Kinda unclear if I had to drain life from rats and bats, but once I got the signal to waste trolls away, then it was clear

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?

- It's good. Kinda lacking at the ending, but the transformation sequence was pretty chilling and awesome

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

- Making sure not troll shamans kill or in this case, un-kill my dead units

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

- 6

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

- None to think about

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?

- No
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?

1.12.6, Hard, Bat and loyal units only gameplay

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

6

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

Clear

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?

The scenario is the culmination of his efforts, resulted in vain(???).

A great "new" "life" which is probably meant to kill more orcs ... no wait that’s just an excuse to kill more orcs. The past goblin scenario preludes this madness that he has, shouldn’t he question what he kills? He didn’t, now what about these trolls, rats, bats? Aww, it’s already his nature.

Oh well I tried thinking what made him wrong, ah I see now, it’s his teacher fault?! No, it was his nature all along or what he thought he was or maybe, his desire for revenge made him this way.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

Keeping bats alive, you need luck.
Bats are a bad match-up against trolls... Impact resistance of bats would most likely kill them when faced with enemies such as trolls.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

7

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

No comment

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?

Malin died before he even reached his keep. Trolls killing Malin because I tried healing Malin using drain.
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?
1.14.7 Evoker
(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
8
(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Clear.
(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
One of the most interesting levels in the campaign for sure. All 3 parts are very good.
(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
I only had 1 level 3 ghost and Mal for the final boss fight (basically had to hope my ghost and lich survive the first turn otherwise I lose). I have no idea if it was bugged but I read the scripts and it is supposed to either recall my 3 strongest ghost type units otherwise spawn a fresh ghost per missing one. Also a certain spider killed Mal first time he met it.
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6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
10.
(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
Give Mal a unique dialogue when killing the super strong deadly spider.
Position the components for the puzzles in different spots since they are too obvious especially with the poems giving hints.
(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
None. Beside a certain spider killing Mal since I ran away into the scorpions and a bat pinned him down for a turn to help the spider reach him.
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?

1.15.6, Summoner (Challenging)

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

9

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

Clear.

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?

I like the 3 parts of the scenario.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

Beating the 3rd part of the ritual and then the friggin 230hp Dragon without losing my nice units.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

9

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

-

Scenario stats:
Spoiler:
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Re: Scenario Review: DiD 11 - Descent into Darkness

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(1) What difficulty level and version of Wesnoth have you played the scenario on?

1.14.13, Summoner (Difficult)

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

10

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

Clear

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?

Well it's interesting except if you die too much....

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

Killing the Dragon that I'll never be able to do quick without Konrad2's replay....
(because I died too much I didn't count)

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

8

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

...................

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?

Died by official list:
  1. Dragon
  2. Walking Corpse
  3. Ghost/Wraith
  4. Skeleton/Skeleton Archer
  5. Flesh/Bone/Soul of Malin
  6. Giant Rat
  7. Giant Spider
  8. Blood Bat
  9. Fire Guardian
  10. ....many more
Err well most of it was unit swarm...

Thanks to Konrad2's replay for the amazing idea!

.... I never got random spawn besides Ghouls and Walking Corpse. It's not random spawn?

Ah oh because I died so much, I got to get few glitched games of Malin's Flesh not moving/spawning/appearing. It's probably fixed but I'll attach 1 save game out of 2 I have gotten.

Actually this also happens to Bones and Soul of Malin but didn't save that time, since it's very rare to happen.

Also you get upkeep here... which shouldn't happen?

This is the scenario that killed my bat only label It's fun though!
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