Scenario Review: (UTBS) 12. The Final Confrontation

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Scenario Review: (UTBS) 12. The Final Confrontation

Post by Content Feedback » March 20th, 2006, 6:07 am

1) What version and difficulty level did you play the scenario on? Please do not submit feedback from pre 1.4.
2) Do you think the difficulty is adequate to the level? If not describe the issue that made the scenario to easy/hard.
3) Was there any event that caused you to almost instantly loose, or made the scenario unplayable without reload?
4) Do you like the storyline and the dialogues? If not what part/character lags behind or what would you like changed?
5) Do you think the scenario was fun? Please write down some thoughts about gameplay, mood etc.
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Post by Sly » April 3rd, 2006, 10:24 pm

quartex wrote:(1) What difficulty levels and game versions have you played the scenario on?
1.1.2a, Normal
quartex wrote:(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
7, the little moving things are a pain
quartex wrote:(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Clear
quartex wrote:(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
Very good ^_^
quartex wrote:(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
Not loosing Gorg (he was the center of attention of most enemies ...)
quartex wrote:(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
8, it reminded me of old action-rpg games :P
quartex wrote:(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
quartex wrote:(8) How much gold did you have at the start of the scenario?
450

Overall I liked this campain a lot !
I was desapointed that the mage didn't stay with me, but I added much to the storyline :wink:
I'll have to redo the struggle to see what happen when siding with the dwarves :D

Thanks a lot !

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Re: Scenario Review: (UTBS) 12. The Final Confrontation

Post by pjr » April 20th, 2006, 9:08 pm

quartex wrote:(1) What difficulty levels and game versions have you played the scenario on?
Easy, 1.1.2+svn
(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
4.
(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Very clear.
(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
Very clear; rather dull by comparison with the high standard set elsewhere in the campaign.
(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
None in particular.
(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
5.
(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
The map could be more interesting. Perhaps there could be a tunnel leading to the hexagonal chamber, with an encounter or two with monsters.
(8) How much gold did you have at the start of the scenario?
1800

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Post by Ragwortshire » May 24th, 2006, 9:21 pm

( 1 ) 112a Challenging
( 2 ) 5.
( 3 ) Very clear.
( 4 ) Very well done.
( 5 ) Nothing, really - I sort of won by attacking things at random. Kaleh was on 15hp at the end, so maybe I was a bit lucky.
( 6 ) 7. A very interesting way to end the campaign, and nice and dramatic.
( 7 ) If you could make it somewhat longer without messing it up, I think it would be even better. I don't have a concrete way to do this, though.
( 8 ) Irrelevant.
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Post by Elvish_Pillager » June 24th, 2006, 11:02 am

Ragwortshire wrote:( 7 ) If you could make it somewhat longer without messing it up, I think it would be even better. I don't have a concrete way to do this, though.
I agree with this; it also seems like it would be rather better for the storyline. This doesn't make sense:
- Yanqui kills countless Elves with his powers.
- Yechnagoth defeats Yanqui.
- Yechnagoth is defeated by five Elves, maybe a Mermaid, and a Troll or a Dwarf.
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Post by quartex » June 24th, 2006, 11:32 am

Elvish Pillager wrote:
Ragwortshire wrote:( 7 ) If you could make it somewhat longer without messing it up, I think it would be even better. I don't have a concrete way to do this, though.
I agree with this; it also seems like it would be rather better for the storyline. This doesn't make sense:
- Yanqui kills countless Elves with his powers.
- Yechnagoth defeats Yanqui.
- Yechnagoth is defeated by five Elves, maybe a Mermaid, and a Troll or a Dwarf.
In heroic fantasy the most powerful creatures can often be defeated by just a few adventurers. It's supposed to be heroic, not realistic. Where did you get the idea that Yechnagoth killed Yanqui? I stated that Eloh defeated Yanqui ages ago.

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Post by Elvish_Pillager » June 24th, 2006, 1:07 pm

Who's Eloh? :?
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Post by quartex » June 24th, 2006, 2:06 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:Who's Eloh? :?
The desert elves god. She is a major figure in the campaign.

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Post by turin » June 24th, 2006, 2:08 pm

quartex wrote:The desert elves god. She is a major figure in the campaign.
But she doesn't actually exist...
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Post by scott » June 24th, 2006, 4:11 pm

turin wrote:
quartex wrote:The desert elves god. She is a major figure in the campaign.
But she doesn't actually exist...
She might exist, but she doesn't appear in the campaign.
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Post by Elvish_Pillager » June 25th, 2006, 9:46 am

There's no evidence in the campaign that she exists; in fact, from some point of view, there is extensive evidence in the campaign that she does not.
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Post by scott » June 25th, 2006, 6:26 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:There's no evidence in the campaign that she exists; in fact, from some point of view, there is extensive evidence in the campaign that she does not.
Which is a long-winded way of saying she might exist.

And, there is zero evidence either way. Since it is more convenient to do so than to drag the feedback thread into a useless debate: OFWRA, especially if turin gets involved.
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Post by Sly » June 27th, 2006, 8:48 am

quartex wrote:In heroic fantasy the most powerful creatures can often be defeated by just a few adventurers. It's supposed to be heroic, not realistic. Where did you get the idea that Yechnagoth killed Yanqui? I stated that Eloh defeated Yanqui ages ago.
scott wrote:
turin wrote: But she doesn't actually exist...
She might exist, but she doesn't appear in the campaign.
Or maybe it was another group of five heroes that killed Yanqui ... hence the legend of Eloh 8)

Ironic isn't it :P

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Post by turin » June 27th, 2006, 4:02 pm

scott wrote:And, there is zero evidence either way. Since it is more convenient to do so than to drag the feedback thread into a useless debate: OFWRA, especially if turin gets involved.
Turin is now involved.
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Post by scott » June 27th, 2006, 6:49 pm

I think the entity known as Redsox slew Yanqui. Quartex wouldn't own up to it, though (he's from Boston, you know).
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