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Re: Eastern Invasion

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In the scenario "Crossing," in the easy mode, the first undead commander is suicidal. He separated from his troops and went straight into the reach of my White Mage and Cavalryman. It was quite easy to dispatch him and all of his troops before the undead reinforcements showed up.

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Started a discussion on github about S2 The Escape Tunnel being possibly too hard in the first time through:

https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/3782

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I wonder about S1, too. The winning strategy is to recruit exclusively Heavy Infantrymen for their high endurance, but if the AI countered by recruiting masses of Dark Adepts, the player would be easily overrun. I realize the enemy can't recruit Dark Adepts (the type isn't in the recruit list), but the player doesn't know this, so essentially, it seems the player is supposed to strategize hoping the enemy made a mistake and didn't bring DAs?

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'Winning strategy' means 'optimal/easiest strategy for winning' or 'only safe way to win'?
Because I'm objecting if you meant the latter.
And if it's the former, then I'm not sure what you are trying to point out.

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What I'm saying is that I think the AI could always win if it were allowed to recruit Dark Adepts; and therefore, on turn 1 the player is essentially facing a situation where he has already lost, and can only win if the AI would make mistakes.

(From the player's perspective, not recruiting DAs is an AI mistake since the player doesn't know the AI sides' recruit lists.)

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In that case I'll add DAs to the enemy recruit list and play the scenario, because I don't think that the DAs would make it unwinnable. Tbh, I never noticed that the AI doesn't recruit them, so I always played and recruited under the assumption that he does.

EDIT:
There you go. I didn't pay as much attention as I should have (I just wanted to finish this scenario fast), but even then, you can just turn it into a war of attrition.
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Thanks for trying that!

I had tried this before I wrote here, but unlike you I forced the AI to recruit only DAs and I lost on turn 7 (with three units remaining against over a dozen DAs). Maybe I could've won if I'd played a different strategy... :hmm:

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What the heck were you trying to prove there? xD

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That if the AI recruits only DAs, it will always win.

See https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=49197 for my new attempt (with a better strategy, managed to survived to turn 11).

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Development Team wrote:
February 22nd, 2004, 2:26 pm
This is the thread for the mainline campaign Eastern Invasion, written by turin.

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Original Post:

Hello-
I'm working on a loyalist campaign now. I already have the basic plot. I am wondering if anyone wants to playtest my completed levels (i am done with two).
Thus i want to know if i should just post the new files as attachments, or what. There are two map files, two scenario files, an image file, a unit file, and you have to change the game file to access the campaign from the 'campaign menu. So tell me how i should make them accessable.
Please add Fencers Recruits in Northern Outpost level as they can somewhat match mobility of Horsemen and Archers from first level because they are good against Ghouls,Bats and Konrad is Royal Warrior because he looks almost like everyone else as Gweddry(if ain't Grand Marshal) and other three are Generals and that mace looks like Scepter Of Fire
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