[UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

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What should the antelope-like things ridden by the Quenoth scouts be called?

Poll ended at May 6th, 2018, 11:31 pm

ibynx
3
27%
dustbok
5
45%
perilope
3
27%
write-in candidate
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 11

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[UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by doofus-01 » May 5th, 2018, 3:08 am

It's possible I missed something, but I think there is still no settled name for the antelope things that the new Quenoth scouts ride.
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There were a couple brief, abortive discussions that I know of, one of them here:
viewtopic.php?p=626846#p626844

One name I had suggested was "dustbok" (can be referred to colloquially as "dusties"?) There are lots of similar variations that can be made from the <descriptive>{bok, beest, lope, etc.} pattern.

Other suggestions?

This can't drag on for too long, so I doubt a poll will work. Let's hope someone posts a clear and obvious winner.
EDIT: Actually, let's do a quick poll.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by nemaara » May 5th, 2018, 3:23 am

I gave a list of names to zookeeper, which follows:

perilope
camelope
orynx
ibynx
carapra
ungulope
vicunelle
guanalope

He said he liked perilope and ibynx the most, I also happen to like orynx and vicunelle. I can explain the etymology of the words if necessary.

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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by Celtic_Minstrel » May 5th, 2018, 5:02 am

I'd like to hear the etymology of the words, just because I'm interested in that kind of thing.

Of nemaara's, I personally like ibynx; I also think dustbok is nice.

There was some discussion about this in another thread too (the dunefolk description one if I recall correctly?) which mentions a few other possible names, maybe those should be copied here for completeness.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by nemaara » May 5th, 2018, 5:32 am

Hmm, actually a lot of it should be referred to as taxonomy, not etymology. Oh well. Let's go in order.

Peri - prefix meaning "around or near"; Lope - refers to "bounding stride", e.g. the way an antelope gallops. You could interpret "peri" as being something referring to the domestic nature of these animals, being "around or near" humans.

Camelope should be self explanatory.

Orynx - "Oryx" is the genus for several antelope species, so I added an n to distinguish it from the actual word, since I don't think antelopes grow to the size where you can ride them.

Ibynx - Ibex is a type of goat-like animal (I forget if it's actually classified as a goat or not). The "ynx" suffix is used for different types of cats, so I combined the two syllables.

Carapra - Capra is the genus for goats, so I gave it a bit of flair.

Ungulope - Ungulates are hoofed mammals, often goat-like.

Vicunelle - A vicuña is a type of camel-like creature, and the elle comes from gazelle. -Elle is a suffix referring to something diminutive (possibly cute).

Guanalope - Similarly, a guanaco is another camel-like creature.

There's a lot of possibilities, just keep each syllable where it remains in the original (e.g. lope should probably be a suffix, -ynx is a suffix, ungu- is a prefix, etc.).

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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by zookeeper » May 5th, 2018, 7:14 am

Of the suggestions so far, I think I personally like dustbok and perilope best. There's some others like ibynx which technically sound fitting, but seem like they'd be a bit clunky in practise, and I feel like a more mundane and easily flowing name would work better when they're mentioned to in dialogue (which arguably only happens in a few places).

Dunelope? :whistle:

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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by doofus-01 » May 5th, 2018, 11:42 am

Ibynx, perilope, and dustbok would all be better than "horses" or "antelopes", so at least we're getting somewhere.
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Dunelope?
I'd figured "dune" should be avoided because of the recently added "Dunefolk", but maybe that's not a real problem.
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May 5th, 2018, 5:02 am
There was some discussion about this in another thread too (the dunefolk description one if I recall correctly?) which mentions a few other possible names, maybe those should be copied here for completeness.
If there were other names mentioned somewhere that you liked, please throw them in!

How long do we have to replace the "horses"? String freeze isn't lifted for very long, is it?
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by Eagle_11 » May 5th, 2018, 12:41 pm

Duneantehorsealopeix :p

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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by Celtic_Minstrel » May 5th, 2018, 3:52 pm

Looks like there were only a few ideas in the unit descriptions thread:
beetlenaut wrote:
April 30th, 2018, 6:55 am
I would suggest something that's similar to an antelope species so it may bring one to mind: Dunebok, Beylond, Aurichs.
Sur_191 wrote:
April 30th, 2018, 7:13 am
Maybe "Dorcas"?
I really don't like that last one though.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by Whiskeyjack » May 5th, 2018, 4:36 pm

Gotta say, I like dustbok most, but most work for me and afterwards its simply a matter of accustomization.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by UnwiseOwl » May 5th, 2018, 6:12 pm

I'm strongly pumping for Orynx, myself.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by Flameslash » May 5th, 2018, 8:39 pm

Orynx sounds like a rock, and dustbok sounds orcish, imo. I like ibynx.

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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by doofus-01 » May 5th, 2018, 11:25 pm

OK, despite what I said in my first post, maybe I will set up a poll. It may not be the most fair poll and it may not be up very long, but it's still better than flipping a coin. I'll put whatever one is ahead tomorrow in a text string PR. Thanks for the input, everyone.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by doofus-01 » May 7th, 2018, 12:33 am

I will now try to squeeze in a PR for replacing "horses" with "dustboks", in the scenario dialogues. I'm not sure if it will be in 1.14.1 or not. There will still be a need to flesh out the unit descriptions.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by Shiki » May 7th, 2018, 2:38 pm

So, Dustbok. Personally the -bok part sounds a bit strange to me, since "Bock" is in German referring to the male of Sheeps, Goats and alike, or rather a specific of the ones (google images will serve a better explanation) Though, they have as well interesting horns.

It would be better to go into 1.14.2, while there is no hard string freeze for 1.14.1, this will appear untranslated in other languages.
Speaking of which, a translation hint would be good.
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Re: [UtBS] Name for Quenoth scout mounts

Post by doofus-01 » May 27th, 2018, 2:44 am

Shiki wrote:
May 7th, 2018, 2:38 pm
So, Dustbok. Personally the -bok part sounds a bit strange to me, since "Bock" is in German referring to the male of Sheeps, Goats and alike, or rather a specific of the ones (google images will serve a better explanation) Though, they have as well interesting horns.
Right, it's Dutch origin, reflects real-world African fauna, and that could be an argument against it (colonialism). But we needed something, the name was chosen in a somewhat open manner and this shouldn't be bike-shed'd. If there are better suggestions, and it weaves into the UtBS sub-universe somehow, feel free to offer proposals. Hopefully BfW 1.14 isn't the last release.
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