The_Gnat wrote:Sounds cool! I think you have the start of a campaign
I look forward to hearing more!
The_Gnat wrote:I like the connection between drakes and fire spirits. The only problem is that a few of the drakes don't have fire breath. Wouldn't they be ousted from the clan because they are 'inferior' and don't have a fire spirit bound to them?
The_Gnat wrote:I like your thoughts!
The_Gnat wrote:About the interbreeding i think it is fairly likely that you would have half-elves (half human half elf) and half-dwarves and not as commonly half-orcs and maybe even elf-orcs and dwarf-goblins
The_Gnat wrote:Maybe (depending on anatomy), orcs and goblins are different so they can't mate with other more human like species but certainly the human like species (elves,humans,dwarves) would occasionally mate. It is probably fairly shunned though for a elf to mate with a dwarf or human (depending on how arrogant they are )
The_Gnat wrote:Drakes, you say they were originally dinosaurs but what i am wondering is: is there any connection to dragons? (it seems like there would be since they are so similar, even in name) Maybe dragons are a different more recluse species of drakes that are larger and closer to their fire-spirits so they have more power. Or maybe they just have more powerful fire spirits
The_Gnat wrote:Speaking of drakes, Wesnoth needs some more 4th level drakes!
The_Gnat wrote:I like all your ideas!! These could make a cool campaign (unfortunately i don't at all have time for that )
female dwarf portrait
Chewan wrote:female dwarf portrait
Whaa... I saw her! In Munich, in the Hofbräuhaus!
I'm telling you, I took her for a human, a classy, pretty (!) Bavarian in her dirndl dress ...
And now you're trying to make me believe... A female DWARF ?!?
C´mon, you are kidding, right?
ForestDragon wrote:The_Gnat wrote:Drakes, you say they were originally dinosaurs but what i am wondering is: is there any connection to dragons? (it seems like there would be since they are so similar, even in name) Maybe dragons are a different more recluse species of drakes that are larger and closer to their fire-spirits so they have more power. Or maybe they just have more powerful fire spirits
well, in my opinion the dragon-drake relation is fairly similar to the orc-goblin relation, basically drakes are much smaller version of drakes, which are more used to walking on their back feet (like human-like races). about the fire spirit part, i guess drakes' size can nly hold 1 average fire spirit each. the dragons on the other hand have 1 large fire spirit (which is responsible for their mind) and lots of weak/average fire spirits, which mostly do "menial" tasks like keeping their host warm, to make sure that the fire spirit in-charge doesn't have to waste his power on that, and occasionally being released in situations like when the dragon is attacked to protect him, or just when he dies
ForestDragon wrote:EDIT: also, i think that one of the differences between drakes and dragons is also their lifespan. Drakes live for roughly as long as human (i mean if they die from age, which is extremely rare, since most drakes die on the battlefield, and due to other factors.) bonus fact: a drake's lifespan increases as they become Fire Drakes or above (because their fire spirit becomes stronger).average dragons have a lifespan of around a 1000 years (if they are not killed by a handsome knight trying to save a some kind of damsel-in-distress ) and some of the strongest ones reach around 10,000 years. they math is 'stronger fire spirit=longer lifespan of the drake/dragon'
ForestDragon wrote:EDIT2: btw, i stumbled upon this female dwarf portrait from WTactics (which is GPL, so the images can be used in UMC, and already are):Spoiler:
fairly decent example of what a dwarvish female could look like. Well, they are far from being as beautiful as elvish maidens, but still, at least it's better than if they had beards (a few add-ons even depicted they as that ) like their male counterparts, they are slightly shorter and more robust than their human counterparts. I guess their social status is mostly staying in their homes and doing the housework, with only a few other jobs possible, like growing mushrooms or working in taverns, ect.
basically, while elves have strong gender equality (mostly), the dwarves are slightly the opposite on the matter.
ForestDragon wrote:EDIT3: back to drakes, i guess i have a campaign/scenario idea: a necromancer decides to study a living drake. He separates his soul and his body, and find out 2 interesting results: 1.the temporary ghostification of the drake's soul revealed that it oddly resembled a fire elemental, yet was also behaving like a soul 2. the soulless, yet living body still remained alive, but was acting almost like an animal, sometimes trying to talk (yet quite clumsily) it retained some of the speech due to the fact that the fire spirit controlled the drake's brain, and thus it subcontiously remembered some basic things.
The_Gnat wrote:Good Idea! And powerful drakes like the Armageddon fire drake might have multiple spirits also, (maybe someone could make a AMLA for drakes that is 'additional fire spirit' and as they advance they fly better and can shoot more powerful fire and are stronger, and longer living)
The_Gnat wrote:And why do some fire spirits not go into drakes, they must have a choice so what is the benefit and disadvantages for them? 1.And when drakes are born do they start off with a fire spirit from their mother? They must because otherwise they wouldn't be smart 2.(speaking of mothers why do we never see female drakes? or do we and they just look the same as male drakes ) 3.And if mothers give up fire spirits to have kids that means they either then die, or have to have multiple spirits.
The_Gnat wrote:Also do drakes care at all about their dinosaur counterparts that have no intellect?
The_Gnat wrote:But what about ice dragons? Do they have ice spirits? If they do then why are there so few ice spirits and why do we never see ice spirits alone and also wouldn't ice spirits hamper the flying abilities of ice dragons? (If they don't have ice spirits what do they have that makes them smart?)
Oh, i know : Ice dragons hold the dead revitalized fire spirits. Occasionally a fire spirit will die (from battle or other reasons), occasionally a sorcerer will rebirth that spirit as a undead spirit, like a ghost. But since these are weak spirits only just returned from the dead they search for creatures to enter to gain them strength. However just like skeletons aren't the same as the warriors that they once were, ice spirits don't have the fire they once did, instead they are outcasts cold and harsh. Evil and malicious these ice spirits mold there hosts into cruel and evil creatures! The undead nature of these spirits also makes their hosts outcasts from normal drake society. These undead spirits however are bound to their host because of their nature of being rebirthed, and so they can not exist without them --> and so that's why we never see ice spirits alone without hosts. (Ice spirits also being more evil and selfish, don't like possessing mere drakes and they insist on entering dragons and other large creatures)
The_Gnat wrote:Yeah, and since they live so much longer they tend to be more recluse and act slower and laze around for days at a time (because they have no time pressure ) and also are more arrogant because they are better - and so drakes don't like them that much.
The_Gnat wrote:Yeah i think that characterizes a dwavish women pretty well. Dwarvish men are just very (culturally) dominate so women don't do much (another campaign idea might be a dwarvish women who rebels from tradition and seeks adventure )
The_Gnat wrote:Yeah! And maybe we could tie in some ice spirit stuff as well:
Maybe he then takes a dead drakes spirit and revitalizes it and puts it into the body of the old drake forming a ice drake!!!
I look forward to hear more ideas!!! Sorry about posting so much (i get rather carried away )
The_Gnat wrote:I look forward to hear more ideas!!! Sorry about posting so much (i get rather carried away )
The_Gnat wrote:Interesting! Good ideas about the drakes and ice spirits! And yeah we definitely have the ideas for some good campaigns!
The_Gnat wrote:-explorers/necromancer journey into the artic circle of wesnoth. Either on purpose,banishment, or exploration. They come upon the ice spirit. Frozen and static for a thousand years. They happen to accidently awaken it And then either the campaign continues with them fleeing the spirit to warn civilisation or maybe it continues with the player as the ice spirit as he sets off first journey to find a host (dragon/drake) and then maybe to conquer wesnoth!!!
The_Gnat wrote:EDIT: ok heres another idea:
-drakes are going extinct because of a disease killing the males. A group of women drakes have to set off to find some of the dinosaur creatures they came from. Or maybe a fire dragon who lives far away and is ledgend to have the original fire spirit inside him!!
The_Gnat wrote:Yeah i agree with both your ideas.
A volcano errupts in the edge of wesnoth. And out from inside it pour fire spirits who have been caged since the begging of time. Ferocious and laying waste to Wesnoth the people of Wesnoth band together to try to hold them off. Failing they turn to a dark sorcerer who has long studied Fire Spirits and whom they previously imprisoned in a deep dark dungeon. In exchange for his freedom the Sorcerer sets off (with a group of masters from each Wesnoth country) in a race against time to find the Golden Ice Dragon which is rumoured to live in the artic circle and hold the original Fire Spirit. Along the way you (the dark sorcerer) have the option of killing your escort and escaping for your life, or instead travelling to the artic in an effort to negotiate with an ice dragon to try to save wesnoth.
The choice is yours to make, you hold the future of wesnoth in your hands...
Comments are (still) welcome!
ForestDragon wrote:good idea, but there is one tiny proboblem:Spoiler:HOW THE **** DOES AN ICE DRAGON SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FIRE SPIRIT?!!!
sorry if i got a bit too emotional
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