The Legend Begins (Story Development)

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » February 26th, 2013, 6:10 pm

I have opened this topic for one purpose - to improve the current storyline(s) for episodes 3 and 4.

I have posted the first two episodes so that you guys can familiarize yourself with the overall plot. These two episodes are done and do not need improvements.

Spoiler:

The Legend Begins

Story Draft

Episode 1 starts (Early 1 YW)

Jahin and his friends break the vampire hold over Genesis. Failing to persuade the elders on fleeing North, Jahin and his small group of friends leave the city. While journeying North, they meet Igor and help him against orcs. After resting at the goblin village, they set out once again. After four days, they arrive at a forest. They are met by two female mages and rid the forest of vampires and orcs. They resume their journey again and manage to enter the Academy's isle. During the march, they meet Kojac and agree to help him. The Academy refuses to aid Jahin and his friends and they decide to return home. Ashhab stays to study magic. Before beginning the journey home, Krog, one of Jahin's friends, suggests finding the trolls and asking them for help. They arrive at a mountain cave and enter it. While in the caves, they encounter undead and trolls. they converse with the trolls and agree to eliminate their undead problem. They enter the nest and defeat the Cursed Emperor Kaliban. With the undead defeated, the trolls are now your allies. But the war worsens as orcs are now allied with the Northern legionaries, so trolls are unable to help Jahin directly. Jahin et el. now set out to gain the aid of drakes. Kojac, the two loyal orcs and the wolf riders stay behind with the trolls. Krog and Nog, the trolls also stay behind as they had not seen another troll in years.

Escorted by a few trolls, Jahin and the rest arrive at a battlefield, where orcs and drakes are savagely fighting each other. Aiding and impressing the drakes with their skills, the heroes are awarded an audience with the great dragon, Kor Vas. Kor Vas, at first, is unwilling to help them. Jahin, eager to prove themselves worthy of being allies, request to be sent on quests and prove themselves. The first quest is to defend the desert coastline from endless waves of nagas. The second one is to retrieve the Orb of Power. Jahin and friends arrive at the Forest of Fear, where they face the Faerie Queen, and her woody minions. They retrieve the orb and bring it before the great dragon. During their exploration of the forest, Jahin and Faria unknowingly drink the Potion of Immortality. Kor Vas accepts them as allies. The drakes and saurians begin coordinated attacks on orcs and reduce pressure on the trolls. Mahir volunteers to go and notify the trolls of their alliance with the drakes and saurians. The next six months are spent on relentlessly attacking the orcs. The scouts return with a report of a human inhabited coast to the east. Jahin and Faria decide to journey under the mountains and head there. They decide to investigate a particular cave near the saurians' swamp. While exploring the cave system, they encounter the Queen of Webs defeat her in battle. They also find an abandoned elvish fortress and decide to investigate the caves further. After some time, they arrive at the mouth of a vast underground complex and are stunned to find the place sustaining a forest. They venture into the forest and are ambushed by elves. After convincing the elves that they pose no harm., Jahin and Faria are taken to meet the Elvish Lord Morfin and his daughter Gioviel. They tell the elves of their cause, and the elves are tempted to join in exchange for destroying the undead menace and another condition, which they were about to tell, but a call-to-arms is heard, and the meeting is cut short. Jahin and Faria decide to help the elves against the undead. They face the legions of Lord Zenthos and a heavy battle ensues. At first the elves are winning, but Lord Zenthos casts a spell and destroys all elementals in the area, but for some reason Gioviel's elementals are unharmed. Faria is powerless and the allies start to lose. After a while, the orb is brought by loyal soldiers of Kor Vas and suddenly it explodes, dealing catastrophic damage to the undead and weakening Lord Zenthos. The allies gain the upper hand and start to scatter the undead. Zenthos is defeated, and retreats. Jahin and Faria, together with some elves pursue the lich and later destroy him. When the lich is destroyed a passage to the eastern side of the mountain is revealed. Jahin and Faria proceed to the other side. They emerge into a small and woody mountain plateau; and are met with scouts of the Aragwaithi. They are request to be taken to the leader of the Aragwaithi. The request is granted and the heroes meet Lord Warren. After hearing the Aragwaithi's backstory, Jahin speaks about their cause and his list of current allies. The Aragwaithi are impressed and offer their aid, if Jahin helps them conquer the vampire city of Azorgath. After a good night's rest, they attack the city and manage to conquer it. With the entire North unified, Jahin and the other leaders make plans for their attacks.

The allies decide to kill the orc high chieftain and place Kojac as the new chieftain, as this will ultimately lead to the orcs being allies. Drakes, saurians, together with Jahin and friends attack the orcish fort of Garshak, and help Krog reach the trolls. The battle was harsh, but the allies secured the fort. Kojac suggests advancing to capture the Northern gates - The entrance to the orcish homeland. Leaving the drakes to defend the fort, the trolls venture underground whilst Jahin and his friends, alongside the elves attack the northern gates. The orcs were caught at an untimely moment resulting in the allies victory. The allies rest for the winter and attack the orcish capital, Gartok, as spring approaches. They met Chief Barus, the high chief among the orcs. As the battle is about to begin, the legionaries convince Barus on departing to Cavan, the western orcish city. The high chief leaves, and a battle between the orcs and allies begin. It was an epic battle, but the allies prevailed. Kojac manages to gain control of the orcs. A messenger arrives informing that the drakes must leave to defend their western city from legion attacks. The saurians return to the fort, while the trolls and elves defend the capital. Jahin and his friends, accompanied by Kojac's orcs march to Korutag - the eastern orcish city. The arrival of the allies have notified the shamans and they prepare an army of ogres and goblins to demolish them. The allies are, at first outnumbered but win with heavy losses. The shamans meet Kojac, and they declare Kojac as the new sovereign among the orcs after a heated debate. With the ogres, goblin, saurians, orcs and trolls marching beside them, Jahin and friends head straight towards Cavan. The allies encamp at a hilly forest between Cavan and Gartok, and make plans for the upcoming battle. During the night, the alliance leaders are ambushed by assassins. The assassins seem to have the upper hand at first, but a shroud of darkness suddenly engulfs and kills them. A mysterious stranger then walks out of some nearby trees and introduces himself as Morin, a human adventurer. The others soon arrive, and the newcomer is allowed to join them. The allies attack Cavan the following day and managed, with great difficulty, to slay Barus. The Legionaries retreat, and the orcs submit to Kojac, With the orcs, ogres and goblins as allies, Jahin, with the allied leaders visit the Academy. They mention their recent achievements, but still fail to persuade the elementalists to help them. New battle plans are made, and the assault on Genesis is finally initialized.

Two months after the conquering of Cavan, the allies attack Genesis. Jahin is shocked to find that his best friend, Mahir, had betrayed them and joined the vampires. Many humans under the command of Monir, Jahin's father, had also joined the vampires. Jahin, at first feels discouraged by having to fight his fellow countrymen, but is encouraged by Faria and his friends to fight. In spite of being overpowered Jahin with the help of the trolls, manages to break into the mountain prison and free the rebels who willingly join Jahin. Mahir challenges Jahin to a duel and a battle between brothers follow. Jahin manages to unarm Mahir, but Mahir picks up sword, stabs himself and asks for forgiveness with his last breath. Monir challenges his son with a duel to see who is more fit to lead the humans. Jahin prevails. The vampires are defeated and Genesis is finally freed from its vampiric occupation. As soon as the last vampire is killed, messengers arrive with the information that Cavan is attacked by the Legions. Kojac leaves. Krog also departs as his homes attacked by an unknown enemy. This leaves only the elves and the humans to defend Genesis. Three days after the capture of Genesis, Jahin and the rest find themselves besieged by the vampires and their allies to the East, a new enemy, the Army of Chaos to the West and the Elementalists to the North. Sage Marcus explains that there is dark future ahead and Jahin must be killed to prevent it from happening. The allies discard the sage's words and prepare defenses. As things couldn't get any more worse, Morin betrays them and reveals his true identity as the Dark Elementalist Mor-Inal. Mor-Inal reveals that Jahin and Faria had accidentally drank the potion of Immortality which he desired greatly. Mor-Inal seeking revenge for not gaining eternal life, uses his magic to kill Faria and summon his minions to decimate Genesis. As Faria dies, she tells Jahin her true feelings. Jahin reciprocates. After two days of constant fighting, the vampires and their allies withdraw as they receive a message that their frontiers are attacked. The Elementalists retreat as their strength is weakened. The Army of Chaos cease attacking and one of their leaders appear. The Demoness Lady summons a tornado that tosses Maruful into the air and makes him land in the Army camp. The Chaos army then retreat saying that they got what they needed. Mor-Inal teleports away, but curses Genesis with the Haunts of the Night before leaving. After half an hour, Kraag returns. The drake says that the elvish reinforcements under Gioviel are delayed due to the attacks of the Academy and they request help. Jahin decides that he would take a tenth of the Genesis army North while the rest remained with the elves to defend Genesis.

Episode 2 (Late 2 YW)

Jahin, Affan and Kraag arrive at the former location of the Misty Forest, now a desolate wood of dead trees. They see a remnant of vampires and kill every single one of them as an act of retribution for their fallen kinsmen. A few days later they are only a day's march away from the Academy and find the Elemental Masters Arvith, Rhodes and Gioviel, along with the elves in a heated battle. The Genesis army intervenes and the battle is won by the allies, though many elves perish due to the storm elementalist's wrath. Gioviel, determined to end the Academy's attacks on the allies and also for personal revenge, convinces Jahin to storm into the Academy and destroy it. Jahin is at first, reluctant, but agrees when Affan reminds him that their friend Ashhab is still imprisoned there. Jahin and Gioviel along with some humans enter the Academy. They fight elementals and eventually reach the library. They find an imprisoned Ashhab and free him. Gioviel also finds a book of ancient spells. Ashhab, now, a mage versed well in the magic of the storms willingly agrees to help. They then enter the main hall, which is the only way to the keep. They face Mistress Emma, the elementalist of nature. She asks of about Faria, revealing to be her grandmother. After hearing Jahin's answer, she is furious and summons the Guardians of Earth to decimate the allies, the allies prevail, but they lose a considerable proportion of their soldiers. They then advance to the keep. When they break down the doors they find that Marcus is waiting for them. Marcus shows his true powers and transforms into a Pure Master of the Elements. He summons the most powerful of all elementals to finish off the heroes. When the allies realized that there is no hope of winning, Gioviel sends the others away while she and the remaining elves stay and fight. Before leaving, Jahin is given the book by Gioviel, saying to give it to Lord Morfin and adding that it may contain the answers to their underground problem. Jahin, Affan and the others escape in the last possible moment to see the Academy vanish away in a bright ray of light. Jahin explains to Lord Morfin of what had transpired inside and Gioviel is presumed dead. As the allies and elves are about to return to Genesis, Greth, a drake glider, arrives and requests aid. The allies learn that Kor Vas has been slain and the drakes entered into a civil war for supremacy. Fearing that a civil war might tear down the alliance from the inside, Jahin and the humans go north, while Lord Morfin returns to the Last Forest with the book. The remaining elves along with Ashhab are sent to reinforce Genesis.

The allies arrive inside the camp of Gashinar, one of the five high dominants, while he is fighting another dominant. A council is held afterwards and Jahin explains that the drakes must be remain together to stop the advance of the legion and their allies. The following month is spent in the northern deserts fighting the drakes, placing Gashinar as the new dominant and confronting the Legion army. The drakes then attack the Forest of Fear and find that Kojac and his orcs as well as Krog and his trolls are fighting there. It is seen that there is a magical portal in the forest that is connected to the vampires homelands. This explained the appearance of the Woodlanders during the siege of Genesis. The allies prevailed due to greater tactical positions, but the woodlanders erase the markings of the portal preventing it to be used by the allies. Kojac and Gashinar, have their troops burn down the forest. Jahin and Lord Gashinar then arrive at the ruins of Sil and find Mor-Inal there and the elementalist uses his powers to resurrect Kor Vas. The Skeletal dragon is huge but the allies manage to conquer it. With the north stabilized, the humans begin the return journey to Genesis. They arrive in Genesis during winter and face the effects of Mor-Inal's curse. The entire city is surrounded by the resurrected dead of the past defenders every night. The friends meet in council and it is revealed by Ashhab that an artifact called the White Sapphire is required to remove the curse. Ashhab tells everyone what he learnt about the artifact and it is confirmed that Jahin, Fairuz and Ashhab should leave Genesis once more, leaving Affan and most of their veteran troops and go South to retrieve the artifact, whilst Galec along with some of his elves return to the forest to bring the book which contains the required spell. Kraag is sent North to see how the other allies were doing.

Jahin and his men travel south for days and gather the aid of Amorith and her faeries. They keep to the forests and eventually see a battle between elves, dwarves and humans against the Chaos empire. The three sides are losing but the tides turn as Jahin and his men attack the Chaos army from the side. The Sand-land Coalition - the name of the alliance between the desert humans, elves and dwarves invite Jahin to meet the leaders of their alliance. Jahin and his men are taken inside the caves and eventually enter a beautifully cavern decorated with runes. They meet the Dwarven Arcanister, Glamatus, the elven chieftain, Norfildor, and the human leader, Jalin. Jahin is surprised to find that Jalin is no older than himself. A council is held and Glamatus reveals the location of the sapphire. Glamatus then tells the tale of a female mage who went to seek a flaming sword in that place and never returned. Hearing this, Jahin learns the faith of Faria's mother. After attending a feast, Jahin and his men leave for the Realm of Fire, the location of both the sword and the stone. Jalin, intrigued by the sword's description, joins Jahin with his personal body guards. The dwarves sentries lead through a network of tunnels, arrive in front of a vast iron gate deep beneath the dwarves citadel. The allies prepare and breakdown the gates. The realm is a lava covered cavern with a sword resting on a stone in the centre. To Jahin's surprise, he finds Mor-Inal there. Mor-Inal binds the sword into a dragon, heads to a keep and starts to recruit. Jahin and Jalin fight their way towards Mor-Inal but the elementalist leaves saying that battle between him and Jahin was not to come yet. The humans then attack the warrior and defeat him. The warrior drops the sword saying that the sword is cursed and should be welded by a person worthy and willing to take the risk. Jalin, saying that he fears no curse, takes the sword. Jahin then fights his way to the stone and retrieves it. They return to the dwarven citadel and find that the eastern gate is almost is broken by the vampires. The heroes reinforce the east gate and conquer the vampires and woodlanders. Jahin takes his leave, saying that he has found what he was looking for. Before Jahin leaves, he offers Jalin to take his people to Genesis, where they may stay and help defend it. Jalin agrees as his old home was burned down by the demons. The party returns to Genesis only to find it surrounded by a horde of undead. Galec is already there with the book and he has place the book at a high tower. Ashhab says that he must reach the tower by the night to cast the spell. Jalin's troops distract the undead while Jahin and his men escort Ashhab to the high tower. Ashhab reaches the high tower and casts the spell. The sapphire rises high into the air and radiates a light equal to the intensity of the sun. Everything is covered in a white light and before anyone has a clue, the undead collapse and the curse is lifted. Kraag and Galec have already returned and a council is held. Due to his bravery and heroism, Jahin is named the Lord of New Genesis. Kraag reports that due to continuous defeats, the vampires are weakened enough to be attacked. It is decided by Lord Warren to attack the vampires head on. Sadia, Affan and Ashhab and half of the Genesis army remain at Genesis, while Jahin take the other half and march eastwards towards the Fort Bloodmore. Jalin and his men also join the attack. Galec, Amorith and Kraag are sent South to enlist the aid of the dwarves of King Glamatus and then start the attacks on the Forest of Anuvien - a forest to the far southeast and the final resting place of the mighty Elven Sorceress Anuvien. The allies attack Fort Bloodmore. The vampires are ambushed by the dwarves and the allies receive a quick victory. Jalin orders his men to stay at Bloodmore and help the dwarves defend it. Jahin and his men return to Genesis accompanied by Jalin who has left one of his loyal commanders in charge of the fort. When the arrive, they find Genesis under siege by a massive elemental army led by none other then Mor-Inal himself. Jalin requests the others to clear a path towards Morin for him. The battle starts. Jalin is successful at reaching Morin and manages to strike him down with the Dragonheart. Mor-Inal with his last breath destroys Jalin and resurrects himself as a Lich. He then resurrects Jalin as undead Death Knight and also resurrects Mahir as a Death Knight and adds that Jalin was willing to take the risk but he was not worthy to wield the mighty weapon and he disappears with the skeletal Jalin and Mahir challenging Jahin once more. Only the dragonheart remains on the ground, but it is now an ordinary sword. All the magic it contained had been used up. All the elementals collapsed and Genesis is free from another siege. While planning for new strategies, Jahin sends Kraag to the allied lands for news and scouting reports. Jahin and his men stay at New Genesis.

Few days afterwards, the humans receive an invitation by Lord Morfin as the elves have found a way to 'open the mountain.' Excited at the thought of seeing the mountain open Jahin and his friends leave Genesis under the command of Affan, and go to the Last Forest. When they arrive at the Elvish Council building. Lord Morfin, approaches and tells that the elves have been researching some pages of the book and found a spell that should cause the mountain to open and allow light to enter. The ritual is performed, but there is a fault as the elvish spell casters recite the wrong page, meaning they cast the wrong spell. The whole forest is engulfed by a dark mist (although the mountains do open) and the woses are transformed into something evil, the Dark Woses. The woses start attacking and Morfin orders a full evacuation. Jahin and his friends help by fighting dark woses as the elves and the faeries are evacuated. The elves and humans escape from the cave and return to Genesis. Lord Morfin is depressed to know that another home is lost by the elves. Jahin tells him about the vast forest on the south-eastern region of the isle. Lord Morfin decides to take the remaining elves south and help Galec in his battles. The elves request him to aid them in the south but, Jahin decides to sit this battle out and remain at Genesis, but he sends Ashhab with them. While defending Genesis, Jahin and the rest encounter the main Chaos army led by the notorious Mal-Shirzo, head of the Iron Triad. The Chaos hordes seemed endless and Jahin and his army are nearly overwhelmed, Shirzo orders to cease attacking and says that "Jahin, you're end is not to come yet." The Demon Lady Nadia then casts a spell that sends Jahin, Fairuz, Sadia, and a few other humans somewhere. The humans start organizing their defenses again under the command of Affan. Jahin and the rest find themselves in the realm of the Inferno. They explore and find out that they are in a battlefield where four demon lords are fighting in a civil war while their queen sleeps. Severely outnumbered, the humans offer themselves as mercenaries. After helping their employer win, they journey further into demon lands and manage to find Azura, the sage among the demons. Azura tells them that she can send them home, on the condition that Jahin must defeat Shirzo and destroy the portal to the Inferno located at the heart of the Chaos Empire, explaining who Shirzo was or will be. Jahin willingly agrees. The heroes are then sent to their realm. Meanwhile, the elves under Galec and Lord Morfin have been attacking the vampires and woodlanders and have managed to get to the location of the portal. Just as the main battle is about to begin, Jahin and his friends arrive from the portal. Jahin immediately destroys the portal and orders the attacks on the enemies.
The enemy is being led by the Vampire Queen Anuvien (the Elvish Sorceress who was though to be dead.) herself. She proves to be a formidable adversary, only to be bested by Sadia. Using the last of her strength, the Queen bites Sadia in the neck, snapping it. Sadia dies. The allies are victorious and have full control over the forest.

Now, we can come to episode 3.

Current Storyline:

Some things I was thinking about:

[*]The Main Antagonist (Shirzo):- I had a good origin planned for him (which depended on AtS-3's plot). But, that campaign gave me a surprise, so I had rethink his origins. Instead of making him and his lackeys (Zenthos and Vaxmos) the new Iron Triad, I switched a few things as I made in the future prediction of Azura:

Ethreal Castle - Scenario 49:

[*]The character of Shifti - Is she really necessary? Should I give her a more significant role or should remove her completely?

[*]The set of scenarios concerning the journey into the Snow Kingdom. Instead of barbarians, I thought about making that kingdom have a moderate military system, which include troops like (Spearmen, Bowmen, and Horsemen).

[*]The character of Ariana. Was another love-interest really necessary or should I remove her good and leave her to be introduced for a possible sequel?

[*]Mor-Inal - Should I include appearances of him in this episode? Or, should I send Mahir, (whom Mor-Inal resurrects to be his general) to a few battle skirmishes against Jahin.

[*]Name suggestions. Somebody please suggest me better names for the Vampire cities and the High Methusalem. The vampire cities have names derived from Blood. And the High Methsalem's name is a amalgamation of Dracula and Nosferatu.

[*]Infiltration into the Chaos land - This sounds very familiar to IftU. Hero taking only a few troops and going into the jaws of death.

[*]The Red Dragon - I had two inspirations for this villain. One was a awesome sprite (recolor of Fire Dragon) Sleepwalker did in a certain forum topic involving a new Dragon and the part one of A Song of Fire. If this is somewhat undesirable, I will remove this character and switch him for something better.

More Suggestions are welcomed...

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » February 26th, 2013, 6:12 pm

I apologize for the double post, but I'm the first user ever to exceed the character limit (60,000)

Now, we discuss episode 4. The main problem is that...It's comparatively short (only an estimated seven scenarios).

Spoiler:

Episode 4: (Mid 3 YW)

A month passes by, and the much-anticipated drake army arrives, led by the Red Dragon himself. The dragon asks for Jahin's surrender one last time, but is only met with mockery. The battle starts soon afterwards. After four days (6 turns schedule) of constant fighting, Jahin remembers a saying his grandfather had taught him when he was just a boy of six - To ensure victory, any sacrifice is worth the price. (Modified from Transformers quote - No sacrifice, no victory) He has his sword enchanted with ice magic and has his men switch to the offensive. The elves, trolls and orcs help him make his way towards the dragon. Jahin faces the dragon and manages to wound him. Red Dragon flees, vowing to return. The remaining drakes, rendered leaderless, are about to retreat but the other dragons urge them to fight on. The battle lasts for another four days, and the dragons are slain. With the drakes retreating, Jahin says that they have lost a valuable ally. Now, free, from the assault of enemies. The allies start organizing the campaign against the Imperials.

The Imperials has not taken back the port, so it was easy for the allies to bring their armies into the enemy's lands. They march towards the capital and decimate the enemy. The other 2 cities fall after that and when the last the of the Magus council is slain, the humans of the Empire, who were under a powerful enchantment recover. The remaining demons are forced into the inferno and the portal is destroyed. The recovered humans request to start their own kingdom, and Jahin, much to everyone's surprise allows them but tells them to leave the isle. When asked about this, he simply replies - Their minds weren't in their bodies when they relentlessly attacked us. And, besides we can't send them back to their own time as we have no idea of how.

The war had ended and after a month, New Genesis is visited by an old friend. Jahin, remains shocked to find Faria, whom he had seen turn to ashes before his very eyes. Faria, replies that she had used a teleportation spell to get away at the last moment. Ariana remains suspicious, but Jahin is overjoyed to receive her and throws a party in her honor. Later that night, Jalin, Jahin and Ashhab are drinking heavily, while Faria visits them. She apologizes and then casts a spell that turns Jahin and the rest to Death Knight, Draug, and Lich respectively. Faria shouts for help and the trio manage to escape by running into the moat. Resting at a forest, they try to figure out what had happened. Ariana arrives and tells that Faria had placed them under a curse, and the only way to cure themselves was to kill her. Jahin is unwilling, but is convinced in the end. They sneak into New Genesis's keep, and battle Faria and her elementals. As the killing blow is being ready to be struck, Mor-Inal appears and cures Jahin and the rest and takes Faria away. Jahin is confused but decides to sleep away the remainder of the night.

Victorious in bringing peace to the Isle, they all return to their respective lands. The allies send emissaries to New Genesis, as it is now the home of the Alliance of Light's order of leaders. The dwarves insist on staying in New Genesis and begin to start mining the mountains near the city. The southern elves return to their home, the desert and begin rebuilding what is lost. Krog returns to his new home, but visits Jahin often. Ariana decides to stay at New Genesis - and starts to get emotionally attached with Jahin. Jahin, on the other hand remains skeptical about love, as it had always brought misery to him. (Death of his mother, brothers, friends and betrayal that almost got him killed) Ashhab becomes the librarian and begins to train mages for New Genesis. Jalin takes Fairuz's post as the second-in-command.

An embassy of the Alliance of Light is established in New Genesis and peace is maintained throughout the land (well, just the central and southern parts). After ruling New Genesis for ten years, Jahin feels that it's time to visit his friend, Warren. So, he (with Ariana) sets out and the legend begins. New Genesis is ruled by Jalin until Jahin returns. Thus, the Legend Begins...

I haven't finalized the map of the Great Isle yet, so anything is possible in this episode. Again some things, I was thinking about:

[*]The Alliance of Light - This is a must for the campaign. I got inspiration for this from an MP era back in Wesnoth 1.4.6
[*]Aragwaithi retreating North - I found this to be necessary to meet the Aragwaith origins in IftU and ASoF.
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Jalin takes Fairuz's post as the second-in-command.

Jahin feels that it's time to visit his friend, Warren. So, he (with Ariana) sets out and the legend begins. New Genesis is ruled by Jalin until Jahin returns. Thus, the Legend Begins...

Well, someone needs to watchover New Genesis in Jahin's absence.

[*]Mor-Inal - He's a recurring villain, so unfortunately he will not meet his end in this campaign.

Additional resources:-

I don't really know if these are useful, but I have included them for everyone's benefit in giving me some suggestions about E3 and E4.

The Storyline (Pre-Wesnoth)

All my campaigns are aimed at or before the time The Rise of Wesnoth begins. As the future events (post Irdya and mid-Wesnoth are fixed, I decided to focus on the past.) I have spoken with cephalo and revansurik, and both have allowed me to merge their campaigns (ASoF and LoK) into this one.

Note: - I haven't added A Song of Fire into this yet.

Spoiler:

If this is favored by majority, I might just add this to the wiki as a Pre-wesnoth/ancient Irdya timeline.

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » February 26th, 2013, 6:13 pm

I did it again! (exceeded character limit

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[*]Map of Great Isle (load in Editor, pls):

Spoiler:

And, finally thanks in advance for posting suggestions (if anyone posts some suggestions, that is,

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Kanzil · Post by **Kanzil** » February 26th, 2013, 9:24 pm

Perhaps the Magus council could reside in one of those Shaxthal hives, like Shadowmaster's? And you probably need to add a final battle with Mor-Inal. Maybe add some cryptic comment as he "supposedly" dies/ dissapears. If you've read the wheel of time, you'll know that Jain Farstrider's last words are " Tell the malkieri I died clean". It's never explained what it means, but it gets the reader thinking. Also, perhaps there should be an even higher demon lord in command of the magus council? And is Shirzo himself the fist of Uria following the second fall of the Chaos empire? Does he lead its final remnants or a new empire? Is he essentially the third emperor of the chaos empire, retreating into the past to regroup and destroy Wesnoth and the civilizations of the great continent before they've even begun? Wow, that's alot of ideas!

By the way, do you have a name for this continent? It's fast becoming a pretty big cycle of campaigns.

revansurik · Post by **revansurik** » February 26th, 2013, 9:50 pm

My, my, that sure is a tsunami of text!

I'm reading it from the beginning, and I'm imagining some suggestions, but first I have some questions regarding the Chaos Empire: am I right to assume it is the Chaos Empire of IftU in its ancient history, which later expanded to the Great Continent after the Fall? And who is this Gaurdian of Darkness Azura talked about? I confess I'm confused about time spaces here

Kanzil · Post by **Kanzil** » February 26th, 2013, 10:19 pm

This is indeed that same empire- taken back in time, to destroy the civilizations of the Great continent before they've begun. Shirzo and co. are the second Iron Triad, with Shirzo the third emperor(or so we must assume for now...), following the defeat of the second empire of chaos they went into hiding to nurse their wounds from a defeat far in the future from a man who faced the resurgent chaos empire, about three-quarters of a century after the events of AtS, by uniting the best part of Irdya against the Chaos Empire. Thus, they ended up in the past. If you've ever watched Doctor Who you'll have a similar sensation, completely losing track of where you are in the plot, as it starts at the end and works backwards. Here, an unknown power has sent a huge part of the resurgent Chaos Empire back in time, and they are working to eliminate the nations of Irdya before they existed. Or at least, that's the plot of the first campaign of the trilogy-there's still another two to go....

"Aragwaithi retreating North - I found this to be necessary to meet the Aragwaith origins in IftU and ASoF." Knightmare, this can't really happen, as I had a discussion with Shadowmaster a while back about Aragwaithi origins-they didn't exist before the fall. Therefore, they must have gone back with Shirzo, but in the many generations since, have forgotten this but for the wisest of lore masters in the great Aragwaithi capital, Hiera’Shirsha, on the Great Continent, where they first appeared before most moved across the seas to the new continent( which needs a name). A few remnants remain, but by the Rise of Wesnoth, are integrated into the other human peoples, to avoid the complication of future Aragwaithi meeting past. I REALLY need to make a wiki page on all this history...

revansurik · Post by **revansurik** » February 27th, 2013, 12:10 am

"Aragwaithi retreating North - I found this to be necessary to meet the Aragwaith origins in IftU and ASoF." Knightmare, this can't really happen, as I had a discussion with Shadowmaster a while back about Aragwaithi origins-they didn't exist before the fall. Therefore, they must have gone back with Shirzo, but in the many generations since, have forgotten this but for the wisest of lore masters in the great Aragwaithi capital, Hiera’Shirsha, on the Great Continent, where they first appeared before most moved across the seas to the new continent( which needs a name). A few remnants remain, but by the Rise of Wesnoth, are integrated into the other human peoples, to avoid the complication of future Aragwaithi meeting past.

If you're talking about the Hiera'Shirsha in ASoF, it is actually a Windsong Foundation; the Aragwaithi capital is Garet-Desh

. When they crossed the ocean, they built a new kingdom on the New Continent, but they mixed up with the Hannuk people, and so they forgot or abandoned their identity as Aragwaithi. Now, the other Aragwaithi group that leaves Garet-Desh goes north, to a cold, arid and uninhabited place, isolated from most other people, and there they would remain until Wesnoth's time. I think this would explain why they were not known to anyone until they decided to show up again.

EDIT: Just to avoid another double post

Well, finished reading the plot for part 3. Here are my thoughts:

They enter a cell, and find that three guards are trying to rape a girl, no older than Jahin.

It may be only me, but a rape attempt seems a bit too hardcore; couldn't the guards be just toying with the mage, like wounding her to see, for example, how much pain a mage can endure?

As Fairuz. Shifty, Affan and Ashhab prepare for the worse, a miracle happens. All of a sudden, there is a flash of light and then Shirzo, is surrounded by four beings - Future Jahin, Future Ariana, a Minotaur overlord and elven avatar. Future Jahin says, "Shirzo! It's high time we settle this!" and so saying, Future Ariana casts a spell that takes the five beings away. The heroes, astonished, hastily leave.

The heroes' future selves showing up all of a sudden at the last possible moment? Too much of a deus ex machina, I'd say; is it really important for the heroes to meet their future selves? Couldn't they, like find a weakness in the demigod Shirzo, and use it to defeat him against all odds?

[*]The character of Shifti - Is she really necessary? Should I give her a more significant role or should remove her completely?

Without her, that failed infiltration to assassinate the King would be a waste of time; at least by finding Shifti they gain a new ally. But maybe Jahin already has enough allies, and she isn't really necessary; but that's up to you to decide

[*]The character of Ariana. Was another love-interest really necessary or should I remove her good and leave her to be introduced for a possible sequel?

I think it could be interesting to use her here, and explore Jahin's own conflicts: he falls in love with Ariana, but feels like staying with her will be a betrayal to Faria's memory. It is not uncommon to introduce a new love interest to the main hero when the first one dies, just see Spiderman, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane

[*]Mor-Inal - Should I include appearances of him in this episode? Or, should I send Mahir, (whom Mor-Inal resurrects to be his general) to a few battle skirmishes against Jahin.

Maybe he could be out in this episode, making new plans, searching for new ways to increase his own power, and leaving Mahir to keep Jahin busy meanwhile. Then, in the next episode, Mor-Inal would return kicking asses more than ever

[*]Name suggestions. Somebody please suggest me better names for the Vampire cities and the High Methusalem. The vampire cities have names derived from Blood. And the High Methsalem's name is a amalgamation of Dracula and Nosferatu.

I invented the name Vrykos for a vampire lord that appears in ASoF, it comes from Vrykolakas, which is some sort of vampire-like monster of Greek folklore. Or maybe Tepes, which is the surname of the man who inspired Dracula. Or maybe Cullen - just kidding, just kidding

[*]Infiltration into the Chaos land - This sounds very familiar to IftU. Hero taking only a few troops and going into the jaws of death.

Well, those who like this kind of gameplay will enjoy it, but I personally think that both IftU and AtS gave us enough such scenarios for a whole life

[*]The Red Dragon - I had two inspirations for this villain. One was a awesome sprite (recolor of Fire Dragon) Sleepwalker did in a certain forum topic involving a new Dragon and the part one of A Song of Fire. If this is somewhat undesirable, I will remove this character and switch him for something better.

Um, what is this dragon's relation to those that appear in ASoF, exactly? Is he a special dragon, or a common one? Or does he have something to do with Agniballi, just like Myra is related to Nitiballi? Anyway, the Red Dragon could spice up things in the Great Isle: when the Alliance of Light, the vampires and the Chaos legions are desperately fighting each other, there comes another mighty contender that kicks everyone's ass. I'm a particularly great fan of multi-sided battles, it feels so crazy and chaotic, not counting the good feeling of standing victorious over a diverse pile of enemies

The Dragon could also provide some more diversity; fighting only vampires, Chaos legions and elementals for too long could get boring.

Well, now it's 4 am where I live, so I'm gonna sleep, but tomorrow (I mean, today) I'll finish reading the plot for episode 4

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » February 27th, 2013, 6:03 pm

@Kanzil and revansurik: Thanks guys, for commenting and suggesting. I will throughly review and give my views on your ideas and informations.

Kanzil wrote:Perhaps the Magus council could reside in one of those Shaxthal hives, like Shadowmaster's?

My campaign is based way before IftU or AtS, so, no. Shaxthals weren't found yet...

And you probably need to add a final battle with Mor-Inal.

I was saving that for the 3rd Campaign, which is why he is a recurring villain.

Maybe add some cryptic comment as he "supposedly" dies/ dissapears. If you've read the wheel of time, you'll know that Jain Farstrider's last words are " Tell the malkieri I died clean". It's never explained what it means, but it gets the reader thinking.

Presuming him dead will make New Genesis put down defenses. Hence, if a massive elemental army were too attack...So, I prefer to keep the threat alive.

Also, perhaps there should be an even higher demon lord in command of the magus council?

Hmm......Good point there....

To the creativity realm!

And is Shirzo himself the fist of Uria following the second fall of the Chaos empire?

What is the fist of Uria exactly? Never understood these terms in AtS properly.

Does he lead its final remnants or a new empire?

Remnants. But, this is a significant percentage of the original one, so you might consider it a new one.

Is he essentially the third emperor of the chaos empire, retreating into the past to regroup and destroy Wesnoth and the civilizations of the great continent before they've even begun? Wow, that's alot of ideas!

Came to me while watching a cartoon...

By the way, do you have a name for this continent? It's fast becoming a pretty big cycle of campaigns.

I initiallt named it the Great Isle, but I might change it. So, suggestions are welcomed.

but first I have some questions regarding the Chaos Empire: am I right to assume it is the Chaos Empire of IftU in its ancient history, which later expanded to the Great Continent after the Fall?

After the Empire started to break apart (AtS-E3), three lich magi gathered the followers still loyal to Uria and found a new order system, and started to reclaim what the original empire had lost.

And who is this Gaurdian of Darkness Azura talked about?

Anya, the demon shapeshifter who was a supported of Elynia.

This is indeed that same empire- taken back in time, to destroy the civilizations of the Great continent before they've begun. Shirzo and co. are the second Iron Triad, with Shirzo the third emperor(or so we must assume for now...), following the defeat of the second empire of chaos they went into hiding to nurse their wounds from a defeat far in the future from a man who faced the resurgent chaos empire, about three-quarters of a century after the events of AtS, by uniting the best part of Irdya against the Chaos Empire. Thus, they ended up in the past.

Nicely paraphrased...

"Aragwaithi retreating North - I found this to be necessary to meet the Aragwaith origins in IftU and ASoF." Knightmare, this can't really happen, as I had a discussion with Shadowmaster a while back about Aragwaithi origins-they didn't exist before the fall. Therefore, they must have gone back with Shirzo, but in the many generations since, have forgotten this but for the wisest of lore masters in the great Aragwaithi capital, Hiera’Shirsha, on the Great Continent, where they first appeared before most moved across the seas to the new continent( which needs a name). A few remnants remain, but by the Rise of Wesnoth, are integrated into the other human peoples, to avoid the complication of future Aragwaithi meeting past. I REALLY need to make a wiki page on all this history...

Time for some creative solutions.

I assumed that they inhabited the Northern Regions (I place I think is the Northern Pole of Irdya). Before even coming to the Great Isle. In A Song of Fire, Prince Varthan (son of Abhai) takes the majority of the Aragwaithi and the Windsong to the North. The Aragwaithi built great cities there, while the Windson build a bigger and better library. This place will be explored in the 2nd Campaign.

This place was forgotten, so I believe shadowmaster was right to say that they didn't exist before the Fall (but, they did and were very far away).

It may be only me, but a rape attempt seems a bit too hardcore; couldn't the guards be just toying with the mage, like wounding her to see, for example, how much pain a mage can endure?

The guards were barbarians. Does one expect civilty from barabrians?

The heroes' future selves showing up all of a sudden at the last possible moment? Too much of a deus ex machina, I'd say; is it really important for the heroes to meet their future selves? Couldn't they, like find a weakness in the demigod Shirzo, and use it to defeat him against all odds?

They don't actually meet. Jahin is unconscious at the time, when Future Jahin arrives, while Ariana is in New Genesis. Fairuz and the others see, but they don't get to tell Jahin as they sacrifice themselves afterwards.

A weakness to Shirzo?

He's freaking invincible, compared to only a few ordinary melee weapons, and a mage with lighting bolts... At least the future guys stood a chance as they took him back to the future.

Without her, that failed infiltration to assassinate the King would be a waste of time; at least by finding Shifti they gain a new ally. But maybe Jahin already has enough allies, and she isn't really necessary; but that's up to you to decide

Perhaps I can make her a teacher of Jahin. She teaches him leadership and advanced battle tactics. Jahin initially relied on brute force and ambushes, he needs some new advice. Being the daughter of a King, she is well suited for the task.

I invented the name Vrykos for a vampire lord that appears in ASoF, it comes from Vrykolakas, which is some sort of vampire-like monster of Greek folklore. Or maybe Tepes, which is the surname of the man who inspired Dracula. Or maybe Cullen - just kidding, just kidding

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate. ... =vampnamer

Found this name generator by doing Google search, it will serve me well for a few days until I find a good enough name. Now, for the cities...

Well, those who like this kind of gameplay will enjoy it, but I personally think that both IftU and AtS gave us enough such scenarios for a whole life

Yeah, so let's think of some alternatives. All-out assault is not an option...

Um, what is this dragon's relation to those that appear in ASoF, exactly? Is he a special dragon, or a common one? Or does he have something to do with Agniballi, just like Myra is related to Nitiballi? Anyway, the Red Dragon could spice up things in the Great Isle: when the Alliance of Light, the vampires and the Chaos legions are desperately fighting each other, there comes another mighty contender that kicks everyone's ass. I'm a particularly great fan of multi-sided battles, it feels so crazy and chaotic, not counting the good feeling of standing victorious over a diverse pile of enemies The Dragon could also provide some more diversity; fighting only vampires, Chaos legions and elementals for too long could get boring.

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Well, the Red Dragon shares nothing with the dragons mentioned in your campaign or Myra. He is just a dragon who has red scales. Also, he's a lot bigger and stronger than most dragons (lacks magical powers though). He will be a good antagonist won't he. He scares away the Aragwaithi....

Well, anyways thanks again for your assistance and views in this. I will think about what has been suggested and add some new ideas to the current storyline.

Kanzil · Post by **Kanzil** » February 27th, 2013, 10:22 pm

Firstly, the isn't there already a continent called the Great Isle? Secondly, the player should face Mor-Inal at some point in the campaign, if only to remind them he's still alive; by final battle I meant the final battle with him of this particular campaign.
Thirdly,

(I place I think is the Northern Pole of Irdya). Before even coming to the Great Isle

Thinking about it, Shadowmaster doesn't mention the anything about the Aragwaithi origins, other than the fact they were united by Adavyan.

It may be only me, but a rape attempt seems a bit too hardcore; couldn't the guards be just toying with the mage, like wounding her to see, for example, how much pain a mage can endure?

Errm... I think I agree.

If you're talking about the Hiera'Shirsha in ASoF, it is actually a Windsong Foundation; the Aragwaithi capital is Garet-Desh

Oops.. by the way, does ASoF take place before or after TLB? I assume well before? Where's the new, nothern, capital?Lastly, perhaps the Red Dragon should be some kind of legend? It's nice if there's some background to make his story a little stronger.

revansurik · Post by **revansurik** » February 27th, 2013, 10:52 pm

Well, finished reading the plot for episode 4. Seems ok to me, but I have one suggestion:

- In the battle against the dragon, fighting an enemy for 24 turns (4 days) and only then aim for the enemy leader would be tiresome. Maybe reducing the turns of fighting would make the scenario more fun.

Anya, the demon shapeshifter who was a supported of Elynia.

I should have been more specific: how does Azura know of the Guardian Anya, if Azura is in the past and Anya in the future? Does Azura see the future? If she does, wouldn't it be interesting if she gave Jahin a hint at what his future will be like?

In A Song of Fire, Prince Varthan (son of Abhai) takes the majority of the Aragwaithi and the Windsong to the North. The Aragwaithi built great cities there, while the Windson build a bigger and better library.

Just a hint: the Windsong that follow Varthan are responsible for teaching the Aragwaithi magic, and, having been raised as Windsong, would care a lot about those refugees' history, but they do not remain as a separate group; rather, they merge with the Aragwaithi, abandoning their identity as Windsong and building normal families. That is necessary, because, if they were just going to restore their order, they would have followed Myra. They followed Varthan because they didn't want to live as Windsong anymore - after all, the order didn't let them marry or build families.

A weakness to Shirzo? He's freaking invincible, compared to only a few ordinary melee weapons, and a mage with lighting bolts... At least the future guys stood a chance as they took him back to the future.

Maybe he has a source from which he drains power, maybe he's arrogant like Mal-Ravanal, and the heroes take advantage of this to strike him down. I'm also thinking in the gameplay: if the player must limit himself to waiting for the future guys to show up, what will he do meanwhile, just avoid confronting Shirzo head-on? I think moving Jahin around the map fleeing from the enemy will kind of reduce his reputation; on the other hand, defeating a seemingly invincible foe is the stuff heroes' songs are made of

Perhaps I can make her a teacher of Jahin. She teaches him leadership and advanced battle tactics. Jahin initially relied on brute force and ambushes, he needs some new advice. Being the daughter of a King, she is well suited for the task.

Nice idea! She could also refine his social and political skills; if he's going to wander the world for centuries, being good at diplomacy and social relations is a must, and the princess, being a high-ranking noblewoman, would be fitting for teaching him

Well, the Red Dragon shares nothing with the dragons mentioned in your campaign or Myra. He is just a dragon who has red scales. Also, he's a lot bigger and stronger than most dragons (lacks magical powers though). He will be a good antagonist won't he. He scares away the Aragwaithi....

Ah, I see... Am I right to think the Red Dragon's attack remind those Aragwaithi of the Last War?
PS.: I don't know about you, but I think it is the dragon who should be afraid of all those spear-wielding Aragwaithi; if playing A Song of Fire has taught me anyhing, is that the fearsome lizards vanish like crazy before a wave of Aragwaithi spears

EDIT: Kanzil posted his message while I was still writing mine...

Oops.. by the way, does ASoF take place before or after TLB? I assume well before? Where's the new, nothern, capital?Lastly, perhaps the Red Dragon should be some kind of legend? It's nice if there's some background to make his story a little stronger.

ASoF happens waaaay before TLB

I imagined the Aragwaithi rebuilding their civilization in the central-northernmost reaches of the Great Continent, but it could be changed at anytime. There is also the matter of the Rod of Justice; it should be explained how it came from the Central Great Continent to the depths of Knalga

Well, ASoF provides some powerful magical artefacts, and a heroine that will not vanish from Irdya so easily; maybe the sequels to TLB could feature Svarballi's Soul, the Sea Trident, maybe even Myra herself, reincarnated to save Irdya once again

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » February 28th, 2013, 6:26 pm

Firstly, the isn't there already a continent called the Great Isle?

The continent the Rise of Wesnoth begins in is called the Green Isle.

Secondly, the player should face Mor-Inal at some point in the campaign, if only to remind them he's still alive; by final battle I meant the final battle with him of this particular campaign.

I was thinking about it earlier today, and decided to add a final battle, although Mor-Inal escapes again....But, he says he will be back...

Thinking about it, Shadowmaster doesn't mention the anything about the Aragwaithi origins, other than the fact they were united by Adavyan.

Yeah, I could add some info, like the Warren's death in HoI resulted in disbanding of the Aragwaithi.

Errm... I think I agree.

I was having some thoughts about replacing the barbarians with an organized military system. Then, I could remove the attempted assault scene. What are your views on this?

- In the battle against the dragon, fighting an enemy for 24 turns (4 days) and only then aim for the enemy leader would be tiresome. Maybe reducing the turns of fighting would make the scenario more fun.

Acknowledged. I will reduce that to just 2 days (12 turns).

how does Azura know of the Guardian Anya, if Azura is in the past and Anya in the future? Does Azura see the future? If she does, wouldn't it be interesting if she gave Jahin a hint at what his future will be like?

Azura can do that. How did you think she told Jahin about Shirzo's origins and hinted of Jahin being the man who brought down the Chaos Empire? Jahin only understood the first part...

Just a hint: the Windsong that follow Varthan are responsible for teaching the Aragwaithi magic, and, having been raised as Windsong, would care a lot about those refugees' history, but they do not remain as a separate group; rather, they merge with the Aragwaithi, abandoning their identity as Windsong and building normal families. That is necessary, because, if they were just going to restore their order, they would have followed Myra. They followed Varthan because they didn't want to live as Windsong anymore - after all, the order didn't let them marry or build families.

Okay, I can coup with that. I have scratch out the part of Jahin meeting Lamisa, the Windsong commander, she and her companions go against the timeline. I have replace them with....(Steppe Orcs/Minotaurs/Rebel Barbarians/Rebels) - pick one.

Maybe he has a source from which he drains power, maybe he's arrogant like Mal-Ravanal, and the heroes take advantage of this to strike him down.

Idea

! He has Svarballi's soul within him

I'm also thinking in the gameplay: if the player must limit himself to waiting for the future guys to show up, what will he do meanwhile, just avoid confronting Shirzo head-on?

They would be fighting lvl4 Hell Overlords and Slashing Gales...

I think moving Jahin around the map fleeing from the enemy will kind of reduce his reputation; on the other hand, defeating a seemingly invincible foe is the stuff heroes' songs are made of

Actually, they would have hold off the seemingly unstoppable enemies...

Nice idea! She could also refine his social and political skills; if he's going to wander the world for centuries, being good at diplomacy and social relations is a must, and the princess, being a high-ranking noblewoman, would be fitting for teaching him

Yeah, but I'm skipping the political bits. That is a boring subject.

Ah, I see... Am I right to think the Red Dragon's attack remind those Aragwaithi of the Last War?
PS.: I don't know about you, but I think it is the dragon who should be afraid of all those spear-wielding Aragwaithi; if playing A Song of Fire has taught me anyhing, is that the fearsome lizards vanish like crazy before a wave of Aragwaithi spears

Actually, the Aragwaithi I speak of, have long forgotten the Last War, there records were burnt away when the First War against the Steppe's broke out...

There is also the matter of the Rod of Justice; it should be explained how it came from the Central Great Continent to the depths of Knalga

Maybe when Prince Varthan was leading his people North, they were beset by Drakes and he and some veterans lead them into the caves, while the main populace escaped. In the caves, Varthan is killed, his Rod is lost. The Rod is found, centuries later, by Malifor.

Well, ASoF provides some powerful magical artefacts, and a heroine that will not vanish from Irdya so easily; maybe the sequels to TLB could feature Svarballi's Soul, the Sea Trident, maybe even Myra herself, reincarnated to save Irdya once again

Let's finish with TLB first, guys.

We can work out the plots of the other two later. And, yes, Myra and her Trident will be appearing in End of Chaos. She will be leading elementals against Shirzo's capital in the future. She makes quick work out of Zenthos, who flees the battlefield, terrified and weakened (Gioviel destroyed him later.)

Thanks again for showing your interest in the project.

Now, to developing matters.

I have taken several ideas and suggestions into consideration, and I'm currently rewriting the plot for E3 and E4.

Some things to be expected:-

Ariana will not fall in love with Jahin in this campaign. Although Jahin falls for her, but later 'gets over' it.
Prison guards will at first try torturing her a bit, but that is the moment when Jahin shows up. If Jahin was a bit late, then there was to be an attempted rape.
Removed Windsong's appearance from TLB (Timeline reasons)
Mahir will now appear as a recurring antagonist in TLB-E3, and as a minor boss in E4.
Final battle between Jahin and Mor-Inal in E4 finale, since everyone wants it

I have edited both the timeline and map to adjust to new conditions:-

Spoiler:

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » February 28th, 2013, 6:27 pm

A hat-trick (exceeded character limit

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Mor-Inal's layer inside the Volcano....

Spoiler:

Post by **Iris** » February 28th, 2013, 9:52 pm

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revansurik · Post by **revansurik** » February 28th, 2013, 10:36 pm

I was having some thoughts about replacing the barbarians with an organized military system. Then, I could remove the attempted assault scene. What are your views on this?

It's ok, I think... a faction that is not very developed, but which has some level of organization.

Okay, I can coup with that. I have scratch out the part of Jahin meeting Lamisa, the Windsong commander, she and her companions go against the timeline. I have replace them with....(Steppe Orcs/Minotaurs/Rebel Barbarians/Rebels) - pick one.

Well, the Windsong do exist in Jahin's time, but they live isolated in the Utmost North. If you manage to find a reason for any of them to leave their Foundation to fight... Steppe orcs, if I get it right, appeared when the orcs had been occupying the Great Continent for a while already, and in TLB, which happens around Wesnoth's founding, the orcs have just recently found that land, so you could use barbarians or rebels...

Idea ! He has Svarballi's soul within him

That wouldn't work

if Shirzo had the soul within himself, Svarballi would take over his mind, possess his body, and Jahin would find himself fighting the Sky Dragon

In part III of ASoF (which I'm writing right now) the last enemy "absorbs" the gem, wanting to absorb its power, but he ends up possessed by Svarballi. Now, I'll stop here before I give out more spoilers

Maybe when Prince Varthan was leading his people North, they were beset by Drakes and he and some veterans lead them into the caves, while the main populace escaped. In the caves, Varthan is killed, his Rod is lost. The Rod is found, centuries later, by Malifor.

I actually had an idea, some time ago, to make a spin-off campaign dealing with Varthan's escape north: he'd be harassed along the way by a dragon general, and near the end, he would leave his people in Lins-Elens and search the dragon for a final duel; they would meet in a system of caves near the Heart Mountains, where Varthan would finally unleash the Rod's full power and kill the Dragon, but would die afterwards. The Rod would then be carried way by various cave denizens, until ending up in Malifor's dungeon...
...OR Jahin could find the Rod somewhere else, use it for a while and then lose it somewhere inside Knalga

You decide what to do.

Let's finish with TLB first, guys. We can work out the plots of the other two later. And, yes, Myra and her Trident will be appearing in End of Chaos. She will be leading elementals against Shirzo's capital in the future. She makes quick work out of Zenthos, who flees the battlefield, terrified and weakened (Gioviel destroyed him later.)

Sorry, my imagination went on a rampage

Myra appearing again? Yes!

When you decide to include her, tell me; she would not return as a human, but as something else

I'm looking forward to playing episodes III and IV!

User:Knyghtmare · Post by **Lord-Knightmare** » March 1st, 2013, 1:04 pm

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 :doh: How careless of me! Won't happen again... :D 

[quote]It's ok, I think... a faction that is not very developed, but which has some level of organization.[/quote]

Okay, I remember a faction being called the Djondi or something. Perhaps I can use those, if I find them that is. Another alternate would be to introduce some units of Ice Age Fun and A New Order with new IDs and names.

[quote]Well, the Windsong do exist in Jahin's time, but they live isolated in the Utmost North. If you manage to find a reason for any of them to leave their Foundation to fight... Steppe orcs, if I get it right, appeared when the orcs had been occupying the Great Continent for a while already, and in TLB, which happens around Wesnoth's founding, the orcs have just recently found that land, so you could use barbarians or rebels...[/quote]

I have crossed their appearance in TLB, as why the hell would they leave their Foundation to just help a princess. And, I will use barbarians instead. Steppe Orcs will appear in TLB sequel.

[quote]That wouldn't work   if Shirzo had the soul within himself, Svarballi would take over his mind, possess his body, and Jahin would find himself fighting the Sky Dragon   In part III of ASoF (which I'm writing right now) the last enemy "absorbs" the gem, wanting to absorb its power, but he ends up possessed by Svarballi. Now, I'll stop here before I give out more spoilers [/quote]

Shirzo, isn't like other mages, so, he would to be able keep himself under control. Jahin won't be fighting Shirzo as Shirzo's ultimate form appears just momentarily before being taken back to the future.

[quote]I actually had an idea, some time ago, to make a spin-off campaign dealing with Varthan's escape north: he'd be harassed along the way by a dragon general, and near the end, he would leave his people in Lins-Elens and search the dragon for a final duel; they would meet in a system of caves near the Heart Mountains, where Varthan would finally unleash the Rod's full power and kill the Dragon, but would die afterwards. The Rod would then be carried way by various cave denizens, until ending up in Malifor's dungeon...[/quote]

Yeah, maybe you can make a campaign about. And end it with Prince Varthan's people arriving no the Northern Pole of Irdya.

[quote]..OR Jahin could find the Rod somewhere else, use it for a while and then lose it somewhere inside Knalga  You decide what to do.[/quote]

 :hmm:  Jahin won't be visiting Wesnoth or Knalga, at least not before 530 YW. So, he won't need to find the Rod, and he won't need it either as he would a rekindled Dragonheart...

[quote]Yes!  When you decide to include her, tell me; she would not return as a human, but as something else 
I'm looking forward to playing episodes III and IV! [/quote]

The final campaign of the trilogy won't be started until TLB and it's sequel would be completed. This could take at least three years, as I'm becoming increasingly busy nowadays...

Okay, I have made a new plot for E3 - though it's only the first half.

[spoiler]After burying Sadia, a council is held. Amorith and her faeries decide to remain in the forest. The desert elves return to aid the dwarves. The wood elves decide to stay in this forest and make this their new home. The wood elves return the Book of Ancients to Jahin, as it has already caused too much chaos. Jahin and the remainder of his army leave towards New Genesis. 

When they return, they find New Genesis as a complete ruin, with chaos units roaming about. They defeat them. They explore the wreckage and find that Affan and most of the population are unharmed as they had hidden themselves within the chambers underneath New Genesis, which were the former home of trolls. Affan explains that it was the Chaos Empire who ransacked through the city and went away with the Dragonheart, and an ancient armor that once belonged to Tegwyn, the first lord of Genesis. The humans start the reconstruction of New Genesis, while Jahin wonders why the Chaos Empire only took those two things. Kraag returns with a massive orcish army and tells that the drakes and orcs have begun the attack on the northern most city of the Dark Legion and they request the aid of the humans. Knowing that New Genesis would need all the available soldiers it could get, Jahin, and Fairuz go North with only a few selected soldiers. The rest of the army stays at New Genesis under the leadership of Ashhab.

A month afterwards, Jahin, Affan and Fairuz and seven loyal soldiers arrive at Del-Rook - The legion's northern city and assembly-point of their northern flank. Kojac, Gashinar and their armies are also there, and they are in the middle of a battle. Jahin and his friends join in. The battle is won, and Del-Rook is burned to the ground. A council is held outside the city. Kojac suggests that they continue with the assault, as the scouts report that the southern city is low on troops as most were sent to the south and east to battle against the Imperials. Gashinar disagrees as the capital city, Sel-Korn, is a heavily fortified fortress. Fairuz suggests that a selected few of the humans will infiltrate the castle, disguise themselves, and assassinate the King. Jahin refuses, as the allies will be conquering the city with brute force anyway. The council is interrupted by a human mage, Mullyra, who asks the leaders if they would spare a few troops to aid her friend, Princess Afrin, in her battle against her treacherous aunt. Jahin, seeing a chance to gain yet another ally accepts to accompany her with his troops. But, Fairuz is persistent on going through with the infiltration. It is finally decided that Fairuz, Affan and Jahin will try to infiltrate the city while Kojac and Gashinar will distract the enemy forces. Jahin tells Mullyra that he will help her when he is done with his mission. Mullyra is grateful and says that she will wait. Kojac volunteers to help her as well.

Early the following day, the allies start their march and reach the outskirts of the city before dusk of the third day. The legion is busy defending their city from the Imperials who are attacking from the South and East. Elementals under the command of a mysterious mage (later revealed to a resurrection of Mahir) are also present. As the allies are distracting the enemies, Jahin spots a mountain beside which the city is situated and notices a mine entrance. Knowing that he has found a way in, he signals Fairuz and they start to approach the entrance. As they reach the entrance, Jahin, Fairuz and Affan descend leaving their troops to guard their escape. They arrive at the other side, and see two suits of armor lying about. A game of straw-drawing is played, then Fairuz and Affan don the armor and Jahin stays to guard the entrance, as he drew the shortest straw. Fairuz and Affan easily blend in with the crowd and make their way into the castle. Here, at the castle they make their way into the throne-room and see that the emperor is too well guarded and decide to retreat. Just at that moment an elite guard approaches them and orders them to guard the princess. Having no other options, they accept. While guarding princess Shifti, the princess continuously talks away about the fact they she would like to leave the city and explore the land. Fairuz, seeing that this could an opportunity to earn a friend, takes off his helmet and reveals his true identity. The princess is at first shocked, but after Fairuz explains their cause and why they were fighting the legions, the princess has a change of heart and decides to join them. As they are about to escape, they hear the alarm and soldiers coming after them, and they start to run. They hastily reach the mountain entrance, but are ambushed by a Dark Terror. The Terror falls dead, as Jahin beheads him from behind, and the heroes escape. The heroes resurface, and return to the ally camp, not before slaying off Xina, the queen of the naga, who was leading the naga herself. The allies then retreat.

Gashinar returns to his kingdom to silence a rebellion, but sends a fraction of his army to New Genesis as the city needs more soldiers to defend it. Jahin and the rest march with Kojac's army to meet Mullyra.

They meet Mullyra and also encounter the Northmen. Jahin also manages to befriend a wolf, which he names Balto (showing my respect to the Alaskan legend). A battle ensues, with the orcs being victorious. Mullyra asks Kojac to march straight towards the central city, while she leads Jahin to meet Afrin. Kojac and his orcs march towards the Northwest, while Jahin and the rest go west. Jahin arrives at a city and meets Afrin, and her band of rebels. They led a joint attack on the enemy, but this ends with Jahin and his troops being ambushed and taken prisoners.

A week passes by in the cold northern prison. By good fortune, Jahin manages to trick a guard and escape. He frees Fairuz from his cells, but as they are about to free the others, Jahin hears a cry for help and they rush towards the noise. They enter a cell, and find that three guards are about to torture a girl, no older than Jahin. Seeing this act of atrocity, Jahin beheads a guard from behind and then a fight ensues. Jahin and Fairuz triumph and free the girl. The girl introduces herself as Ariana, a mage and explorer. The trio then explore the prison and free the rest, and retreat Southwards. They arrive at the central city, and find that Kojac. and Afrin are fighting the royalists. They join Kojac's group and successfully enter the castle. Most of the castle is deserted, as majority of the soldiers are outside. They make their way into the throne room and fight Queen Ysura, and her undead minions. They slay the queen, and are victorious. Afrin, now Queen, awards Jahin with the Resurrection Stone and explains its use (He may use to resurrect a person who had died an unnatural death). Jahin offers her to fight for the Alliance, but she declines, as her people had been through too many wars already. Some rebel soldiers, having witnessed Jahin's bravery in the battle decide to accompany him. (Just four loyals, three on hard.)

Jahin and the group return with Kojac to his lands, and after staying a few days, they return to New Genesis. Once inside, they find that the majority of the dwarven population are there. When asked, about their presence, they answer that The Chaos Empire had taken their home. King Glamatus and his personal guards stayed behind to stall the attackers. The dwarven speaker also implies that the elves are safe as the eastern gate was collapsed when the majority of the populace had escaped. Jahin offers the dwarves to stay at New Genesis. The dwarves happily accept and enter the catacombs underneath the city.

A few days later, an old friend of Jahin arrives in New Genesis. Jahin is shocked to see Mahir as a living being again. Before Jahin could order his men to get Mahir, Mahir starts making a speech which brings out Jahin's recklessness as a leader and finally offers sanctuary to the humans who would side with him and against Jahin. The majority of the Populace and three-fifths of the New Genesis Army join Mahir. Jahin faces a mutiny, but is guided by Shifti and Fairuz to gather his loyal troops and face Mahir in a one-on-one battle North of New Genesis. Jahin is the victor, but Mahir teleports away at the last moment. A fortnight after the mutiny. New Genesis is besieged by a massive elemental army led by Jalin- now, an undead knight under the command of Mor-Inal - and Mahir. Mahir demands Jahin's surrender, but Jahin refuses, saying that the Mahir that was facing him today was not the Mahir he knew as a best friend. The battle soon follows.  Jahin decides to use the Stone  of Resurrection to revive Jalin, as he meets the proper conditions for revival. Jahin fights his way through elementals and with the help of Ariana, Shifti and Ashhab, manage to bring Jalin under control. The Stone of Resurrection is used and Jalin returns to his former self. He is also granted immortality, but it is the same as Jahin - no regeneration or immunity. The elemental army disappears and Mahir escapes again.

While celebrating their victory, Jahin announces to everyone that a war council must be held again. And he sends Kraag, and two gryphon riders to the Allied leaders. The next two weeks are relatively quiet, and the messengers return along with Kojac, Krog, Gashinar, and Sedoc. Tidings are exchanged, and the Alliance of Light is found. An all-out assault on the vampires is planned. The orcs and trolls will keep the  Chaos Empire at bay, while the drakes and saurians will defend New Genesis, and assist the Aragwaithi in the northern flanks. The dwarves, humans, and a faction of the orcish army would attack the twin vampire cities.

The battle at the Twin Cities is won with the help of a slave rebellion. Jahin then addresses the freed slaves and they immediately join his cause. The cities are burnt to the ground and Affan returns to New Genesis with a few troops and the freed civilians. The Alliance leaders then send scouts, and after a day , the scouts return. The vampire capital is located on an island directly eastwards, the vampire fortress of (insert name here), and there is a city southeast of their location. Jahin decides that the island city would be difficult to overcome, as his army couldn't sail ships, so he plans to attack the northern vampire fort.

When the alliance arrives there, the vampire fort is already being attacked by the Aragwaithi. drakes and saurians. The vampire fort is overwhelmed and their leader surrenders. Jahin remembers the commanding officer well (it was the same blood-sucking vampire that killed his mother) and instead of ordering the his men to stand down, gives the order of destroying the fortress. The orcs and dwarves join in the attack. Sedoc finds this act of revenge irrelevant to his people and leaves the battlefield, saying that his men could use a break. The fort is decimated...

The allied leaders now plan to attack the southernmost vampire city. This involves marching through a marshland. Sedoc's army is left to guard the ruins of the twin cities from vampire ships, while the rest of alliance marches southeast. While traveling through the swamp they are attacked again by Mahir and his elemental-undead army. The allies repel the army, Mahir escapes yet again. The drakes and saurians have suffered heavy casualties and head back to their respective homes.

The human, orcish and dwarven armies attack the southernmost city. The city is filled with vampires and the allies were gradually losing. The tides are turned as Galec, Amorith and General (Elvish name) - a southern elf commander arrive with their armies. The city falls and ends with the death of Princess Solita - youngest of the High Methusalem's children. Jahin frees the slaves and Kojac orders the city to be burnt down.

Victorious, the return to the ruins of the twin cities and held council. Kraag is sent to New Genesis, Gartok, and Cytos, to report the progress of the Alliance. Sedoc offers his men as sailors. So, the allies board the ships and set sail towards the vampire capital. After a day, they arrive at the capital's harbor and immediately conquer it, catching the vampires by surprise. An epic battle ensues, neither side giving way. Jahin manages to interrogate a vampire captain and finds out the vampire High Methusalem is underneath the city. He notices a trapdoor, and enters it, followed by Fairuz, Jalin, Ashhab, Ariana, Balto, and a few human troops. Shifty stays above to command the human army.

While exploring, the underground catacombs, Jahin, Balto and Ariana get separated from the rest by accidentally pressing a hidden button. Failing to blast away the barrier, Ariana suggests that they exploring further. During their exploration they find two pendants, that could protect them for any ancient magic spells (especially the ones used by Mor-Inal and Shirzo). Although these pendants do not grant protection from fireballs, ice balls, or cold tempests, or shadow tempests. Ariana tells Jahin about her immortality. Jahin returns with the same answer, surprising Ariana. Jahin also accidentally blunders something and makes Ariana suspect that Jahin likes her. Jahin also finds another Immortality potion. He finds an empty bowl, and gives Balto, a third of the potion to drink, as he was feeling thirsty. Jahin decides to save the rest for his friends.

Exploring further, they enter the throne-room and find that the fighting has already began. Jahin, Ariana, and Balto join in.The High Methusalem transforms into his ultimate form and the real battle begins. The vampire king manages to strike Jahin with his tail. Jahin is flung across the room and hits the wall, shattering the vial containing the potion. Jahin recovers, but is helpless to watch the magical liquid get absorbed by the cave floor. In the end, the vampire king is vanquished by Ashhab, who manages to summon a light-beam equal to the intensity of Sela (Irdya's sun). The heroes resurface and find that the battle still going on. Jahin asks as the vampires to surrender as the king is dead. Hearing this, most vampire lords board ships in the eastern harbor and sail away eastwards. Princess Silvana - eldest offspring of the High Methusalem. surrenders and vows that as long as she reigned, no vampire would leave this island ever again. Jahin is hesitant, but later allows Silvana to live and forgives the vampires for the destruction. Fairuz, confused, asks Jahin why he let the vampires live. Jahin replies that it is better to forgive and forget, implying that he had become a wiser leader after Shifti's teachings.[/spoiler]

Explanations of some events:-
[list][*] [quote]Jahin also manages to befriend a wolf, which he names Balto (showing my respect to the Alaskan legend).[/quote]

I enjoyed watching all the movies about Balto, back in my youth. So, I gave him a part in my campaign. He would also serve as a hero in the sequel. Hence, his immortality.

[*] [quote]While exploring, the underground catacombs, Jahin, Balto and Ariana get separated from the rest by accidentally pressing a hidden button. Failing to blast away the barrier, Ariana suggests that they exploring further.[/quote]

The new vampire capital is an island, so a tremor would cause the chamber to be submerged, killing all the heroes. This was a workaround.

[*][quote] The vampire king manages to strike Jahin with his tail. Jahin is flung across the room and hits the wall, shattering the vial containing the potion. Jahin recovers, but is helpless to watch the magical liquid get absorbed by the cave floor.[/quote]

I had to find a way to get rid of the excess potion...

[*] [quote]In the end, the vampire king is vanquished by Ashhab, who manages to summon a light-beam equal to the intensity of Sela (Irdya's sun). [/quote]

Vampires, in many legends and stories, portray a general weakness to sunlight. In the Wesnoth universe they get weaker during the day, but do not burn. So, I thought vampires were tolerant to the intensity of sunlight that reached Irdya. That's why Ashhab summons the light beam. The High Methusalem is reduced to ashes.

[*][quote] Jahin asks as the vampires to surrender as the king is dead. Hearing this, most vampire lords board ships in the eastern harbor and sail away eastwards. Princess Silvana - eldest offspring of the High Methusalem. surrenders and vows that as long as she reigned, no vampire would leave this island ever again.[/quote]

When I first wrote the draft for the entire plot of TLB, everything was messed up and disorganized. The campaign was only 30 scenarios long. The surrendering of the vampires was included in the first ever plot. (Then again, in the first plot, there were dark elves instead of vampires). So, I've included this to make a part of the first plot still remain in the campaign.[/list]

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