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The Scepter of Fire (short story) Intro is up

Post by Hatter_Madigan » July 6th, 2009, 1:45 am

Hey, I am working on a short story fan-fic for wesnoth, and I need to know who I can send it to, that could take a look at it during the earliest possible stages of writing in order to correct any historical mistakes and could help out with any questions I may have about story-line. If anyone could please help me, that would be great :D
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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by The1exile » July 6th, 2009, 2:32 pm

I'll help, but from my experience here you can just post it and everyone will be happy to give you feedback.
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Post by thespaceinvader » July 6th, 2009, 3:05 pm

Indeed - I wouldn't see a probelm with having a look at someone's wesnoth-based fiction (on which note, if you're basing something in the wesnoth verse, are you prepared to release it under GPL...?) in this forum.
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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by Hatter_Madigan » July 6th, 2009, 4:30 pm

So then would no credit go to me? Would it be fine to post like one chapter a week or month? And the story line is a little unruly. Like, it pretty much puts a toe over the line in the sence of things most likely to occur in Wesnoth. The story takes place during the time of the ruby of fire, up until the sceptre of fire is created. But the thing is, it's not going to be the actual main storyline. That's already out. Everyone knows that story allready. What I want to write about is something that is going on behind the scenes. Something that I can almost just completely start from scratch with and make up. I learned alot about the characters from the races page, the secret lore page, and then I try to put a little history of wesnoth in there. and I played the sceptre of fire campaign which also helped out alot. The diologue seemed alittle immature for a popularly played campaign. But that is very easy to dismiss when you're in a cave filled with thousands of enemies that are kicking butt, while trying to mine and stay alive at the same time with the shortest supply of gold I've been able to mustar so far.

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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by Turuk » July 6th, 2009, 4:36 pm

Hatter_Madigan wrote: And the story line is a little unruly. Like, it pretty much puts a toe over the line in the sence of things most likely to occur in Wesnoth.
Eh, it's a fan-fic piece, it does not have to be spot on about everything, unless you really want it to be.
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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by Hatter_Madigan » July 6th, 2009, 4:43 pm

So, what about the creation of the ruby of fire? how much in detail do we know about that? I haven't seen anthing about the creation of the actual ruby, just that it was done by mages, I believe. So if I find out otherwise, I could have some fun with that :mrgreen:

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Post by Turuk » July 6th, 2009, 5:42 pm

Hatter_Madigan wrote:So, what about the creation of the ruby of fire? how much in detail do we know about that? I haven't seen anthing about the creation of the actual ruby, just that it was done by mages, I believe. So if I find out otherwise, I could have some fun with that :mrgreen:
If you continue to play all the campaigns, you will find out that there are details about the ruby there. ;) You can also just poke around, searching through the forums to find information.
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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by melinath » July 6th, 2009, 5:59 pm

Is it your intent to write fanfiction or do you want to contribute to the world of wesnoth? I.e. do you want your story to be considered as an addition to Wesnoth canon worldbuilding material? The latter would be more difficult, since you would have to be spot-on on the facts that do exist, but it sounds like you're planning on doing that anyway.

This may be helpful to you. It's not complete yet, but the acquisition of the Ruby is fairly well laid out already. Warning: spoilerific.

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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by Hatter_Madigan » July 6th, 2009, 6:33 pm

I guess you're right. I will just go ahead with the fan-fic development. thanks alot though :wink:

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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by melinath » July 6th, 2009, 7:26 pm

Shucks. I was hoping you'd decide the other way. Oh, well.

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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by Hatter_Madigan » July 6th, 2009, 7:32 pm

Could there be some aspects that you could possibly use? Or would I have to make the whole thing historically accurate?

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Post by melinath » July 6th, 2009, 10:52 pm

I'm not the last word in anything. But I'd say that the whole thing would have to be historically accurate.
However! It's very important to keep in mind that [acronym="There Are Holes In Wesnoth's History The Size Of Europe"]TAHIWHTSOE[/acronym]. :eng:
This is an acronym I have just made up, but it's true! For now. There are historical things that you should know and take care to include in any story you write. For example, writing a story where Konrad gets killed by Asheviere would not fly. But writing a story about the creation of the Ruby of Fire would be (I would imagine) relatively easy, since it's in Wesnothian prehistory. There's a lot of room to play. You'd want to brush up on your knowledge of the Wesfolk by reading through the dialogue from TRoW (which I linked), and there might be some more info knocking around the forums. But you don't need to freak out about finding every single detail. Eventually, there will be reference documents containing this kind of information. For now, make a good faith effort to do some research, and if you make any gross errors while trying to maintain accuracy, people who know more from being on IRC for years will probably let you know.

EDIT: In other words, if you took on the project of making a historically accurate depiction of the creation of the Ruby of Fire, you would get help/input from other people on what is already historically determined or seems reasonable. You would be creating the rest, and your story (along with this thread) would be a reference document for anyone wondering how the ruby was created or what Wesfolk culture was like.

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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by Hatter_Madigan » July 6th, 2009, 11:51 pm

In the entry to the story, you find out that the narrorater is a 669 year old elf. The reason for his age is undiscovered to readers at the moment, but will come to play a big part in the conclusion. Would that be able to fly? Or is it too far out? I mean, he does have a way that he came to be that age, but telling you now would be a huge spoiler.. and I hate spoilers>.<

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Post by thespaceinvader » July 7th, 2009, 6:39 am

Only one elf, to date, has been known to live longer than the wesnoth standard of just over 200 years (Kalenz). Unless it's particularly important to the story, I'd suggest keeping to that restriction. You could have the story passed down through a family of elves, for example.
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Re: A writer needs help!

Post by melinath » July 7th, 2009, 7:01 am

Hatter_Madigan wrote:I mean, he does have a way that he came to be that age, but telling you now would be a huge spoiler.. and I hate spoilers>.<
We are writers. Spoilers are nothing to us. I'd tend to agree with TSI, even if you were just going to do fan fiction. However, what were you thinking of as a reason?

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