The Powers of Drain

Post by **turin** » March 12th, 2004, 1:09 am

This is a replay i have of a game played between my brother (100 gp, undead) against the AI (999g gp, northerners)
I think that this replay has many values. True, he did not win, but it proves that-
1) the Lich is extremely powerful
2) the computer can be, if not beaten, tied if it has 999 gold
3) the AI needs to consider the effects of specialties such as drain

(if you first un-gzip it, then copy it into your saves directory you should be able to load it. turn [show replay] on, and load the game)

Gafgarion · Post by **Gafgarion** » March 12th, 2004, 1:44 pm

The Lich is by far the most powerful leader unit. It has better statistics than all the other leaders and is the only one that can advance to Level 4.

Post by **Dave** » March 12th, 2004, 1:58 pm

There is currently a problem that it's not possible to watch replays of multiplayer games (i.e. any games set up from the multiplayer screen).

However it looks like he mainly relied on using the Lich's drain power to stay alive even when surrounded by six first level orcs.

Perhaps we should make the multiplayer leader for the undead the Death Knight instead of the Lich. Or...we could just take drain power away from Liches.

Thanks for posting the replay.

David

Ave · Post by **Ave** » March 12th, 2004, 4:15 pm

I vote for the deathknight.

Btw, would it be possible to pre-generate a few 'multiplayer' games of different difficulties for single/multi human/computer players? These could be single map scenarios distributed with the game.

Post by **fmunoz** » March 12th, 2004, 4:42 pm

vs the AI the lich is very powerfull but versus human players his advantages are way less. This is a designed desition, weaker (or more expensive) troops better leader.
Maybe lowering again its melee attack it will balance the things a bit.

Post by **turin** » March 12th, 2004, 10:39 pm

the new attacks should be 4-3 for lichs, still drain, and 5-4 for ancient lichs, still drain. This would probably make it more balanced than it is now, although it might still be too powerful. you have to remember they (ancient lichs) have the most powerful ranged attack in the game- much better than great mage.

miyo · Post by **miyo** » March 13th, 2004, 8:03 am

Please notice that undead evolution tree is different in CVS, e.g. Lich does not advance to anything anymore.

http://changelog.wesnoth.org

- Miyo