Using Leaders to Fight

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In Eastern Invasion, I gave Gweddry the second Holy amulet, so he levelled quickly after that (sword and crosbow aren't very usefull against undead ... holy ones are :twisted: ), so I discovered that he can level up to Marshall (lvl4) and so give +25% to lvl3 units 8) (really really cool)

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Campaigns = Time limit, generally less income. I use the king as much as possible.

Skirmishes = No time limit, generally much greater income. I use the king to recruit and keep him tucked away safe.

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purki wrote:In dwarven doors you need to have Konrad leveled up.
I agree with leveling Konrad up, but it's not required for Dwarven Doors.

I finished Dwarven doors just fine by interposing a small group of fodder Elvish Riders between Konrad and the enemy - he'd reached the goal by the time the pursuing orcs caught up. :)

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IIRC, Dwarven Doors has been changed in SVN. I'd play the new one before commenting on the necessity or not of having Konrad leveled in that scenario. ;)
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I try to sqeak by with less and less troops Each time I play, and leveling Konrad up really helps. Same if you need to recruit lvl1's due to some erroer in gameplay--really strong attacks for weak units.

On Delf: you can also use him to trash really strong monsters, trolls and orcs, who have little or no ranged and HIGH Hp, then give the little ones in your army 16-24 hp.
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Thrawn wrote:I try to sqeak by with less and less troops Each time I play, and leveling Konrad up really helps. Same if you need to recruit lvl1's due to some erroer in gameplay--really strong attacks for weak units.

On Delf: you can also use him to trash really strong monsters, trolls and orcs, who have little or no ranged and HIGH Hp, then give the little ones in your army 16-24 hp.
HP? Or EXP?
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Emmanovi wrote:
Thrawn wrote:I try to sqeak by with less and less troops Each time I play, and leveling Konrad up really helps. Same if you need to recruit lvl1's due to some erroer in gameplay--really strong attacks for weak units.

On Delf: you can also use him to trash really strong monsters, trolls and orcs, who have little or no ranged and HIGH Hp, then give the little ones in your army 16-24 hp.
HP? Or EXP?
xp.my bad.
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Ginger_Ale wrote:Delfador - he's good for finishing people off,
This is over the long term a poor strategy. Delfador is already level 4; he can't level up any further. Consequently, it's better to use him to *weaken* enemy units, and then let other units take the kill and gain the XP. I do *occasionally* use Delfador to kill something, mainly when I feel it is necessary to keep my own units (especially experienced ones) alive, but on the whole it's best to take kills with units that you want to level up.

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I always try to be as quick as possible, and in Httt, it's not that hard to level units up. So I do use Delfador, but I try to keep him behind the front, to be sure he won't get killed.
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Delfador is actually a weak level 5.

I used him in the beginning to take care of full hp trolls. If he doesn't kill them then they're easy pickins for my archers + good xp.

It worked pretty damn well.

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Delfador is basically equivalent to a third level unit, but he gives enemies the experience of a level 5 unit. People (including me) have complained about this repeatedly, but to no avail. He remains a level-5-imposter. :(

IMHO, Delfador is most effective in scenario 1, where he can be used to shoot advanced trolls and orcs, and let your level 1 guys kill them. He's also pretty good at really damaging the leader of the north-west orcs, which can get one of your level 1 guys advanced pretty quickly if you get them the kill.
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I think he's level 5 more for realistic and scenario/campaign history reasons than for gameplay ones.

The one that is a pain, is Kalenz, when you have to move and protect him in the Scepter Of Fire scenario.
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