Bats: Flying Wonders?

[thespaceinvader]

Alternatively, chill out. If you try to apply physics to things which are supernatural, you will BREAK YOUR BRAIN...

[manored]

if an enemy gets any unit, but scouts in particular, then it is very important to kill them before they disrupt your income to much by taking a bunch of villages. also, it is not that difficult to catch a bat with with 2-3 units. a good combination is an elvish scout to force the bat to move, along with an elvish archer both for the ranged attack and because the archer has 6 base movement.

Sorry, I was ambiguous. I dont mean "move dangerously" as in treating the enemy, but as in giving the enemy a chance to attack or surround the bat. Basically, dont move him in range of anyone or anywhere where he might have his retreat path cut-off in one turn.

About ghosts: Since Wesnoths world is magical, maybe we could say that all things on it are magical... water is the source of life, and thus opposes unlife. Since ghosts are "pure unlife", they are extremelly affected by this. How about that?

[pauxlo]

but that begs the question, how do ghosts, which need to absorb energy to exist, have enough left over to spend it on levitation?

I've got the impression that a ghost is not really this heavy, that flying is a problem. A ghost consists of not much more than air ...

[Araja]

If you consist of not much more than air, wouldn't you expect not flying to be the problem?

"Whaaaaaa I'm floating away again!"

[thespaceinvader]

Why would you float if you were composed mostly of air?

Balloons don't float away, do they, unless they're filled with something explicitly NOT air, i.e. helium or other lighter-than-air gases.

[Pentarctagon]

so the real question is: Is ectoplasm lighter than air? heavier? or about the same?

[Skrim]

There is no conservation of mass/energy in Wesnoth. Look at Trolls. They supposedly eat very little according to their race description, yet they have enough left-over protein mass to regenerate at such a rapid pace.

In no place of the description it says anything about trolls having proteins. Trolls have a strange physiology, more than animals they can be considered living minerals as most of they body is constituted by earth and rock. As such regeneration simply means restoring body placements. They are unconsciously capable of transforming kinetic energy into arcane energy, which is what keeps them alive and allows them to do what they do.

And Magi. They pull fire balls out of nowhere, violating energy conservation and thermodynamics at the same time. WINE.

They are able to transform inner and external kinetic energy into arcane energy

Ok....

I'm not going to argue. I've had enough fridge logic to last a couple of weeks.
Now I must go and chant the MST3K Mantra a few dozen times...

[bobtheknight]

so the real question is: Is ectoplasm lighter than air? heavier? or about the same?

I reckon ectoplasm changes density, that's how i believe ghosts to attack anway.

[Thanatos]

Fantasy is not subject to physics, anyone?

[Skrim]

Indeed. Fantasy worlds cannot be rationalized using real-world physics. The entire discussion about Ghosts or Woses or Saurians is nothing but Wild Mass Guessing.

And anyway, this thread is supposed to be about Bats.

[Pentarctagon]

yeah, we've kinda got off topic for the last two pages lol. so back on topic...i nominate the dreadbat as Wesnoth's Most Annoying Unit.

[manored]

yeah, we've kinda got off topic for the last two pages lol. so back on topic...i nominate the dreadbat as Wesnoth's Most Annoying Unit.

I agree, and I suggest we give it the nickname "flying powerhouse"

I have never really seen a dread bat in action though, but considering how awesome a blood bat is...

[Araja]

They're actually a hex slower than the Blood Bats, but they do make up for it.

I nominate the Vampire Bat as Wesnoth's most annoying unit, because they are so common that the sheer mass of their annoyances outweighs those of Blood or Dread bats, quantity of annoyance over quality of annoyance.

[manored]

They're actually a hex slower than the Blood Bats, but they do make up for it.

I nominate the Vampire Bat as Wesnoth's most annoying unit, because they are so common that the sheer mass of their annoyances outweighs those of Blood or Dread bats, quantity of annoyance over quality of annoyance.

Well, I suppose if we are going to use some criteria, it should be anoyance potential per cost... I think vampire bats indeed win

[Pentarctagon]

i would definitely say that ghosts come in a close second though, with their resistances and draining and 50% everywhere.