Drakes beat Northerners: Replay wanted

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Re: Drakes beat Northerners: Replay wanted

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Eskon wrote:Turn four: You proceed to absolutely own his scouts, while having gotten all your villages. I'm not seeing much badness from your side. And sheesh. Does the AI ever learn?
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A rhetorical question, I know... I assure you I was aware of the irony soon after I wrote it, and I though I'd let it stand to see how many people would spot it :)

EDIT: Um, englandschorsch? "Roast"? With Cold attacks? :P

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Eskon wrote:Um, englandschorsch? "Roast"? With Cold attacks? :P
Erm, yeah. *lol* Talking about unwanted irony. *grin* Stupid me... *hehe*
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If you want to beat an Al, try and recruit 2 gliders, 2 Burners, 1 clasher and a Fighter at the start.Never underestimate saurians eather, as the Augur can heal and cast spells at units in good terrain, and the Skirmisher can attack from behind, saving room for the bigger units to attack. Another important thing about saurians is, they're chaotic and dont need to retreat at night.
Use the Gliders to dance around the orcs, gradually pulling them to the sides as the computer is stupid and wants to kill them. At the End, the orc forces will be split into two parts at eather side of the map, and while the Fighters and Clashers hold off the main forces, two Burners, at long it is morning/day, will easily finish off the leader. If that doesnt work,look out that you try and use burners/gliders against Grunts and Wolf Riders, while melee fighters deal with assasins and Archers.

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mnt wrote:Another important thing about saurians is, they're chaotic and dont need to retreat at night.
I think I'd retreat them at night.

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Re: Drakes beat Northerners: Replay wanted

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But it isnt as necessary. They only lose 25% instead of 50% relative strength at night.

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Taimat wrote:But it isnt as necessary. They only lose 25% instead of 50% relative strength at night.
Do you know what you are talking about?

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Post by gorgolok »

They don't lose relative strength when both units are chaotic. The only problem is that their low HP is even worse against the stronger nighttime attacks, and their resistances don't help much either. The only thing they've got going for them are the terrain bonuses, and if swarmed, their luck won't hold.

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IB is being pessimistic with his figures even... 2 night-time grunt strikes usually kill a saurian. You usually get 2 strikes in out of 4 vs 50% defense (what they have on villages), actually, even vs 60% it's a usual outcome.

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The point is probably that it doesn't make any sense to retreat 80% of your army and let the other 20% stay back to be freely attacked, Augurs especially. Skirmishers can probably dish out halfway decent retaliation damage while blocking pursuit if you place them in front of your retreating drake forces in 60% terrain, and if they survive, you can have them flee thanks to skirmish. If you make sure your pursuit-blocking skirmishers can't be attacked by more than two grunts, they should have a decent enough chance to survive.

Leaving a caster open to attack by melee forces is a dumb idea even if the melee units were to fight on the wrong time of day...

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Yogi Bear wrote:
However, if you play this a little smart, it will only be one village in question and only for one or at most two turns. Remember, that 1 turn costs you a net loss of 4 gold per lost village (2 less for you and 2 more for your enemy). But 4 gold is a lot less than a lost unit.
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Post by Ghost_whore »

I'm a new player too, undead warrior but i'm converting to drakes, I'll play some on Northerners and tell you what happens.
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