Hi, Need Help into the deep (the south guard)

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Olivier FAURE
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Hi, Need Help into the deep (the south guard)

Post by Olivier FAURE » January 2nd, 2008, 10:50 pm

Hi, Happy New Year to all, dev and players

I began "into the deep" scenarii with 8 people level 2/3 and no gold (no question was ask to me to earn 400 gold in fog scenarii :(

It impossible to me to finish it, undead takes me about 40 ou 50 PV at each attack, i don't have enough with 45 tours to achieve it. The queen tells in the beginning that we have to take time but 10 turns more won't be too much for me :(

what level or technique is needed for these undead ? i can't use always the clerc with the 3x22 because he's too quickly dead...

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Olivier

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Post by CarpeGuitarrem » January 3rd, 2008, 12:20 am

Check out the following thread:

http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8296

And ask around in the Strategies and Tips forum. If you can, attach a replay of your latest try. As far as the White Mage/Mage of Light goes, you should use him against an enemy first, and then get your other units in, to protect him. In fact, controlling who the enemy can and can't attack is a crucial tactic to have, especially with units like Horsemen and Mages who can get sniped/melee attacked, respectively. Use them first, and then pile in with your other units for protection.
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Post by zookeeper » January 3rd, 2008, 7:45 am

What version of Wesnoth do you have? TSG is in a much better shape in the 1.3 branch than in 1.2.x, and this particular scenario is very different too.

I'd recommend the development releases (1.3.x) for playing campaigns. There's the occasional bug and glitch with the development branch, but many campaigns are also more polished and less buggy, and there's a lot more of them.

EDIT: Ok, based on the "the clerc with the 3x22" I suppose you actually have 1.3.x already. So, what was that about the starting gold? Do you not start the scenario with the amount of gold you earned at the end of "Choice in the Fog"? If so, then that's a bug and I can fix it.

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Post by Master Young Phoenix » January 15th, 2008, 11:00 am

First of all, go south-west, don't go straight ahead where the "ice is weak".

Then you'll meet a troll welp, offer the trolls gold to help you, if you offer them lands&freedom they will not help you and you'll be facing both the trolls and the undead, which will be your end. The Liche has a strong attack, so you should be a little patient. Wait untill the trolls are beginning their massed attack on the undead. I used this strategy and in fact, the trolls did it all. I only had to kill some spirits, and the trolls kept moving in the way to kill the liche, which they did. To help them out, you can use the white mage and the elven queen to heal I think.

If you are determined to kill the lich yourself, keep you're characters in a hex-to-hex triangle so that you can both heal (twice) at the start of each of your turns and attack him with two characters... however, every time I tried, Deoran got killed in the liche's turn, so use the trolls.

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Post by zookeeper » January 15th, 2008, 11:22 am

Master Young Phoenix wrote:First of all, go south-west, don't go straight ahead where the "ice is weak".

Then you'll meet a troll welp, offer the trolls gold to help you, if you offer them lands&freedom they will not help you and you'll be facing both the trolls and the undead, which will be your end. The Liche has a strong attack, so you should be a little patient. Wait untill the trolls are beginning their massed attack on the undead. I used this strategy and in fact, the trolls did it all. I only had to kill some spirits, and the trolls kept moving in the way to kill the liche, which they did. To help them out, you can use the white mage and the elven queen to heal I think.

If you are determined to kill the lich yourself, keep you're characters in a hex-to-hex triangle so that you can both heal (twice) at the start of each of your turns and attack him with two characters... however, every time I tried, Deoran got killed in the liche's turn, so use the trolls.
If you had read the thread a little bit, you'd know that your advice is completely irrelevant.

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Post by Jigsawn » February 11th, 2008, 5:06 pm

Some more issues with this mission here:

http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=315

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