Countering heavy infantryment

[waterd103]

When i'm playing the alliance online i have big troubles fighting groups of heavy infantrymen
i play standard settings on the basic 1v1 map online like blitz or charge.
the fact is that no unit seems to do the job, Dwarvish fighter and futpad seems the most suitables units to fight them, but they can hold em at best, any tips or something i'm missing?

[Thrawn]

When i'm playing the alliance online i have big troubles fighting groups of heavy infantrymen
i play standard settings on the basic 1v1 map online like blitz or charge.
the fact is that no unit seems to do the job, Dwarvish fighter and futpad seems the most suitables units to fight them, but they can hold em at best, any tips or something i'm missing?

HI are pretty slow, so one thing you want to do is outmanuver them. Hit them with units, and then retreat the ones that get wounded the next turn. Use ranged attackers (the thunder is nice, despite pierce resistances) as are the poacher and footpad at night. Fighters also work best at night, because they aren't counterattacker as hard (due to the layful nature of HI) Also, by getting too many HI, your enemy is probably not getting enough other units, so he will be under-defended other places on the map.

[Wintermute]

fighters and footpads are good, as you say, but keep in mind that *any* ranged unit will do free damage, so thunderers and poachers (at night) are also good. It may take 2-3 turns to kill, but HI will not dodge very much, so you can usually do 10-20 damage a turn to it, and it is hard for them to run away.

Avoid attacking with melee until it is close to dead, and then only from good terrian.

[joshudson]

For orcs: Archers
For Undead: Adepts
For Drakes: Burners, augurs
For Loyalists: Mages
For Rebels: Mages, Woses(!)
For Dwarves: ranged anything, fighter from good terrain only. Violate this rule and use anything that is within one hit of killing it.

Day/night rules should be obvious except that Rebels should use Woses by day and mages by night unless likely to kill it in one turn.

[Sapient]

For orcs: Archers
For Undead: Adepts

don't forget ghouls and assassins! the HI is slow to retreat and thus can suffer greatly from being poisoned.

[krotop]

I think it worths the try with trolls at night. They do the same amount but troll is 6 gold less expensive and is likely to recover next turn (it's night, in a lot of cases, loyalists won't expose theirselves near your frontline to shoot the troll)

Violate this rule and use anything that is within one hit of killing it.

True for every unit of any faction that is 12 to 16 gold, isn't it ?

[Yogibear]

Well, guys, waterd was asking for knalgans strategy, didn't he?

[Thrawn]

Well, guys, waterd was asking for knalgans strategy, didn't he?

well, he didn't directly ask for it, but we can assume (because he was talking about dwarves) that that is what he meant.

I'm sure the extra advice is useful though.

[Wintermute]

When i'm playing the alliance online i have big troubles fighting groups of heavy infantrymen

[Sapient]

When i'm playing the alliance online i have big troubles fighting groups of heavy infantrymen

When I first read that I thought he meant the Alliance of Light/Darkness (Great War Era).
Then I realized he meant Knalgan Alliance, nonetheless, I just couldn't resist responding to mr. hudson's post there.

[Clonkinator]

Though those HIs have a very thick armor and suffer greatly reduced damage from blade and pierce attacks their impact resistance is almost rediculous. Try attacking them with thugs at night, that should work well since their club does impact damage. And as already said, any kind of ranged attacks is good as well.

[Vela]

Try attacking them with thugs at night, that should work well since their club does impact damage.

Thugs have been removed from the Alliance. Long ago.

Anyway, your advice to use impact damage is still useful: I've found that footpads are a nice cheap counter for HI's. In your turn you attack from good terrain with the ranged, and in his he'll retaliate, but you'll likely get no damage. If you get hurt, you just zoc the HI while you get healed. Fighters can also be useful if you can attack from a mountain.

I'm sure there are better ways, but that one works nicely for me.

Edit: and, of course, getting free kills with thunderers and poachers can't hurt either.

[Martinus]

Whatever shoots, tends to kill HI pretty fast...

[Clonkinator]

Try attacking them with thugs at night, that should work well since their club does impact damage.

Thugs have been removed from the Alliance. Long ago.

Oops, forgot about that... Well, I'm not playing the Knalgan Alliance very often. Sorry 'bout that. But you can still easily get impact damage to counter HI with.

[Martinus]

Thugs have been removed from the Alliance. Long ago.


Oops, forgot about that... Well, I'm not playing the Knalgan Alliance very often. Sorry 'bout that. But you can still easily get impact damage to counter HI with.

Did they? Damn it. They were great counter to many units.