Siege of Elensefar (with mages, on medium)

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Siege of Elensefar (with mages, on medium)

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I decided for some reason to try playing SoE without using any units except mages. This was partially as an attempt to do something strange with the mainline campaigns, and partially a plan to post a new SoE thread, to show that not all new SoE threads are redundant.

Unfortunately, having not planned for this, I had only two red mages when starting the scenario. Although I was able to win without any significant save-loading (I only save-loaded to go back a few turns and change tactics a few times), the scenario was brutal - I started with 22 mages and ended with 5 (two archs, a red, and two whites), with only a few turns left.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how this could be achieved without so many deaths? Specifically, how can I keep the mages safe and fight in advantageous conditions while still moving quickly enough to finish? I've had success with making a line on the beach before, but with only mages, the enemy being in the water isn't that important, and I don't really have any units to soak up damage.
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Re: Siege of Elensefar (with mages, on medium)

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williamager wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions as to how this could be achieved without so many deaths?
Come in with 800 gold and two Arch Mages and a Red Mage, that's what I did when I tried this. :P

Actually, that doesn't count, because it was the OLD Siege of Elensefar, with hills up ahead instead of water. The general form should work though. :P

Oh man... now some REAL advice. Flood onto the island ASAP - you need the villages for defense. Put your toughest units on the villages, everyone else (somewhat) safe behind them. Try to kill things that will let you grab more villages. Surrounding the enemy leader quickly and bombarding him may work if he doesn't defend well enough. Oh, and use the thieves as cannon fodder. :twisted:
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It seems as though you'll need a meatshield vs Orcs no matter what in order to avoid losses.
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Spam wrote:It seems as though you'll need a meatshield vs Orcs no matter what in order to avoid losses.
With meatshields, the scenario is extremely easy. That's the whole point of using only mages.
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Hmmmm. You'd probably need to go back all the way to Isle of Anduin, methinks :P I can only see myself doing that with loads of levelled up mages (resilient archmages can sub in for meatshields, although you will want to keep them alive as they are too hard to bring up to waste like that) and careful leadership with Konrad. And perhaps silver mages zipping about the island too. Though that might be aiming a little high :wink:

EP is right though; flood the island, use numbers to your advantage, take the villages and use the thieves as cannon fodder.
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this inspires me to play HttT with only shamans and mages...
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Why not only shamans or only mages?
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Post by jg »

Try only Shamans on Hard... Or better: with only wolves in SotBE on the hardest difficulty... :wink:

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Elvish Pillager wrote:Why not only shamans or only mages?
Well, if only mages, what do you do in the first 2 scenes? I'm doing it with only shamans right now. (But not on Hard...I'm not insane. Well, I am insane, but not in that way.)
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Post by Elvish_Pillager »

well, obviously you make an exception for the first two scenarios. (or if you're in Easy mode, you don't need to recruit anything, it seems. ;))
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Elvish Pillager wrote:well, obviously you make an exception for the first two scenarios. (or if you're in Easy mode, you don't need to recruit anything, it seems. ;))
also because IMM (in my mind) thay sere the same purpose on different terrains...

but I'd due hard with only shamans...I'l save the replays :)
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