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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » March 10th, 2019, 12:25 pm

Thanks,

Actually my outlines are not black, but dark grey, dark brown or dark TC according to the position. I know they have a problem and I guess I will focus on making them look better for the next sprites.

For the eyes, I got the impression that there is no clear mainline rule (for example the spearman, footpad and Khalifate have all different eyes) But I agree my sprites could use more white in the eyes.

Hair is really hard in my opinion. I try to make as good as possible of course, but I cannot promise it will get better soon.

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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by The_Gnat » March 11th, 2019, 3:01 am

nenau wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 6:27 pm
You mean something like that ?

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » May 5th, 2019, 4:22 pm

Hello, and thank you !

A new gladiator : the Thraex (lvl2) that evolves from the provocator. I tried to work on my outlines...
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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by ghype » May 5th, 2019, 5:02 pm

the helmet is not that bad actually.
the blade's perspective is not right which makes it appear much smaller than it should be.
unless you planned it to be a dagger and not a sword.

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » May 5th, 2019, 5:56 pm

Thanks for the remarks.
Actually its a short sword (~30 cm).
Antique blades tend to be shorter than middleage's ones (I guess its a question of metallurgy)
When I made my researchs, I was surprised to see how the gladiators look harmless with their small blades, but I guess it's in order to avoid unnecessary injury.

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by doofus-01 » May 6th, 2019, 1:32 am

The blade size isn't unrealistic, but it's hard to read. There is a reason most Wesnoth sprites have silly proportions: at this scale, you need to emphasize the important parts with an exaggerated size. You might be able to get away with just lowering the sword and hand by a few pixels, so it stands out more in the silhouette.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » May 6th, 2019, 6:03 pm

Hi,

I tried what you suggested (and by the way added more tones to the shiend as well)

I think the sword cannot be interpreted as a long sword with a wrong perspective anymore, and it feels maybe more readable...
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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » May 8th, 2019, 9:08 am

And here comes the retiarius (lvl 3, evolution of the thraex)
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By the way, as you can see, I've found a reliable way to get around my difficulty with hair :whistle:

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by The_Gnat » May 20th, 2019, 5:02 am

Hi Nenau, Nice drawings they look really good! I like the gladiator style units you are making. :)

(I have trouble drawing hair as well so I usually just steal it from another sprite haha, but I like your solution!)

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » May 25th, 2019, 11:53 am

Thanks, here is the alternative evolution of the provocator : the lvl2 mirmillo, who is an heavy gladiator, contrary to the provious ones :
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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by EarthCake » June 3rd, 2019, 1:11 pm

Is it supposed that this unit has on one arm armor, and not on another one?

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » June 5th, 2019, 5:30 am

Yep.
The gladiator has an armor only on his most exposed arm (the right one for shield bearers and left one for the retiarius)

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » June 9th, 2019, 9:20 am

A few corrections on the Mirmillo (mostly the hemlet) :
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And its advancement: the lvl3 secutor :
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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by EarthCake » June 9th, 2019, 1:50 pm

Secutor is missing the shadow beneath his sword and right arm.

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » June 9th, 2019, 6:11 pm

That is right, but actually for now, I prefer to keep the shadows very simple. Maybe some day I will change my mind and add details into shados...
The mainline sprites sometimes add such details in shadows and sometimes not, so I decided to keep it as simple as possible.

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