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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » April 25th, 2018, 12:04 pm

And a lvl 3 poisoner bowman.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » May 10th, 2018, 6:27 pm

After having re-played the campaign, I re-worked the carnyx carrier :
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » May 21st, 2018, 10:43 am

A legionnaire horseman.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcome

Post by nenau » June 8th, 2018, 6:32 pm

Three civilians sprites:
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I got a few issues with her :
* I didn't manage to give some deepness to her hair, because it's black...
* I was embarassed with the fact that she does not have anything in her hands, so she ended up with this puppet attitude.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by Vyncyn » June 8th, 2018, 7:14 pm

I made an edit to adress the issues you mentioned.
Even black hair can have highlights. I added some with grey pixels, but white could work too. Her shoulders were too broad. I made them slimmer and changed the pose a bit. One hand on the hip and another holding a fan feels a bit more natural.
The other sprites look nice, but i think they look a bit flat since you only use bright shades. If you add darker hues you can increase the kontrast.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » June 9th, 2018, 7:35 am

Thanks for the edit!
For the hilight in her hair, I had tried to use grey pixels, but it was not working because I was not parcimonius enough. Your proposal looks way better. About the fan, it looks good, but historically, there is no chance an oriental queen form the 1st century BC bears this fan design... I can't use a mirror as it would look odd (I'm using her in a dialogue scenario where she discusses war with other kings and generals). I will try to change the shape of the fan to make it an ancient greek fan. Not sure how it will end up though...
I agree the sage is flat. I'll re-shadow him with the full palette.

EDIT: The sprites
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By the way, I made her leftmost arm 1 pixel shorter.
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And for the king, I only modified a fex pixels...
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by ghype » June 9th, 2018, 8:48 am

hello there.
compared to the other sprites you made these last three have a lot more TC then usual. this sometimes can look very odd in-game if you get to have a more pooping out color or white and black. maybe reduce the TC on the queen/sage, so you have more space to give them a bigger palette of colours.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » June 9th, 2018, 12:14 pm

I belive the problem with too much TC is that the shading actually does not render exactly the same for the different colors. For those units, they will only be used in a dialogue sceario and they will be blue. I didn't feel them odd so I think they will keep their magenta clothes.
But I do agree it was not really smart to use so much TC. I'll keep that in mind for later.

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Re: Nenau's sprites, advice welcomed

Post by nenau » June 22nd, 2018, 6:10 pm

Hello,

I draw a sprite for my modern warfare campaign, and a few variations of it.
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From left to right: sniper, RPG, machinegun, assault gun, medic, shotgun. They all have TC on the leftmost arm.
Other sprites should follow.

By the way, a comparison with the "standard" modern warfare sprite (see below) gives me a fair idea of the progress I have to do... I suspect the part I have to improve is the anti-aliasing of the overline, but I'd like to have a confirmation.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by ghype » June 22nd, 2018, 6:49 pm

compared to your other sprites, these might be your best ones all tough the base sprite is the same and only the weapons change.

I dont see what the yellow scarf is suppose to be on the 3rd sprite with the machingun.
but maybe some more variations on the armour would fid. RPG/MG definitely are heavy classes and need heavier gear. healer should have a backpack too. shotgun could have some tactical as well as the sniper. the sniper could be even more camouflaged.

here are some militarised gnomes from an era I don't recall the author, but they have some ideas for armour variations for your units.
your sniper can have some leaf or even desert-ish camouflage on him:
officer hat idea:
idea for west:
armour variations:
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by Alchemister » June 22nd, 2018, 11:20 pm

Not spriting as is, I'd just point out one thing: Don't use red cross in games. For medic, use green cross or (better in this case) purple cross instead of red. We just don't want to have to deal with International Red Cross and its legal team protecting the symbol (which is what actually happened with several games).
Their reasoning is pretty sound, based on avoiding the trivialization of their flag and the symbolism it brings. Yes, they viciously guard their symbol to be able to help all sides of conflicts in real-world war zones.
I'm not sure if this happens with Red Crescent (their daughter organization for islamic countries) as well, but I think it might.

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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » June 23rd, 2018, 6:15 am

Thanks for the feedback!
ghype wrote:
June 22nd, 2018, 6:49 pm
compared to your other sprites, these might be your best ones all tough the base sprite is the same and only the weapons change.
Thanks! I'm not drawing in vain, after all!
ghype wrote:
June 22nd, 2018, 6:49 pm
I dont see what the yellow scarf is suppose to be on the 3rd sprite with the machingun.
It's the bullets for the machinegun (its main function is to distinguish the MG and the sniper).

You're right for the backpack of the medic. I'll add it.
ghype wrote:
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shotgun could have some tactical as well as the sniper.
I don't understand this sentence.

About the leaf-camouflage, I want to actually draw a complete family of camouflaged sprites (with stealth and/or skirmisher bonuses). For the variations in the armor, I also intend to draw militia sprites. I'll use your examples for those.
Alchemister wrote:
June 22nd, 2018, 11:20 pm
Their reasoning is pretty sound, based on avoiding the trivialization of their flag and the symbolism it brings.
Actually, it seems legitimate. I'll see what other set of color than white and red I can use...

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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by ghype » June 23rd, 2018, 8:56 am

nenau wrote:
June 23rd, 2018, 6:15 am
It's the bullets for the machinegun (its main function is to distinguish the MG and the sniper).
it is not very clear, it looks more like a scarf then a magazine. the sprite would look much cleaner without it. maybe you fing a better way to display the long magazin.
ghype wrote:
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shotgun could have some tactical as well as the sniper.
the guy could have some tactical gear*. the sniper too. i mean stuff like walkie talkies or back packs with some miscellaneous stuff.
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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by nenau » June 24th, 2018, 8:02 am

Here we are with a few corrections:
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Shotgun and sniper got a talkie, MG has a box instead of the bullet magazine and medic's color got black and white and he got a backpack (for all his medical stuff). I'll re-play a scenario to see if the MG and sniper are differentiable enough...

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Re: Nenau's sprites, needing advice

Post by ghype » June 24th, 2018, 9:19 am

I like the changes. especially on the the medic.
the MGunner looks now better too. however, the drum mag usually sits in the mid of the rifle between the both hands, not at the end (the stock)
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