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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby Vulpine » May 6th, 2017, 11:47 pm

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I made negligible adjustments to bits of obscure linework.
Is it just me, or does his left eye look kind of funny?

And a fix for the previous upload: click on the image :doh: I feel so stupid right now :oops:

Anyhow, is this satisfactory? (It's kind of hard to believe I'm done after working on it so long!)
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby The_Gnat » May 7th, 2017, 12:44 am

AWESOME!! 8) :Awesome: It looks great (and i think the left eye is fine)!

Thank you very much vulpine!
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby Vulpine » May 8th, 2017, 12:30 am

Thanks, but I think you are giving the credit to the wrong person (though since Girgistian isn't here to receive it, I'll be glad to accept it :lol: )

As much as I would love to now display a partially shaded sylph portrait, but things are starting to get busy. I have not the time now, and possibly for quite a while.

Since I can't make any promises, and I will not leave you hanging by saying 'I'll work on it in my spare time', I am uploading the .xcf file for anybody who wants to take it up. (Several of the layers are empty, and if you want to change anything at all, please do.) Or even start from the base image.

I am sorry that I can not complete it now, but that is life :( I can only hope that somebody will see what a wonderful sketch it is, and take the time to shade it properly. I'll probably still be around to watch progress if anybody decides they want to give it a try.
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby darkbearlab » May 8th, 2017, 1:35 am

Vulpine wrote:Thanks, but I think you are giving the credit to the wrong person (though since Girgistian isn't here to receive it, I'll be glad to accept it :lol: )

As much as I would love to now display a partially shaded sylph portrait, but things are starting to get busy. I have not the time now, and possibly for quite a while.

Since I can't make any promises, and I will not leave you hanging by saying 'I'll work on it in my spare time', I am uploading the .xcf file for anybody who wants to take it up. (Several of the layers are empty, and if you want to change anything at all, please do.) Or even start from the base image.

I am sorry that I can not complete it now, but that is life :( I can only hope that somebody will see what a wonderful sketch it is, and take the time to shade it properly. I'll probably still be around to watch progress if anybody decides they want to give it a try.


IMO the Sylph needs to be reworked.
If you are willing to wait for it, like 24 hrs, I'll give you a reworked line art.
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby Vulpine » May 8th, 2017, 4:09 am

:D I personally would love to see it, and have no problem waiting!
I'm not sure which unit The_Gnat had intended it for... Not that I think it should matter too much, but if you are re-working it anyway, perhaps The_Gnat has some suggestions? I dunno.

But you are aware that it is pretty likely that nobody is going to work on them, right? I mean, the post had been dead for nearly five months before I offered my inexpertise. And I'm going to have my hands full for who knows how long?

That being said, If you would rework the line-art that would be wonderful! Maybe somebody who actually knows what they are doing will stumble upon this post and have it fully shaded in a couple of hours, putting me to shame. (Maybe if I wish hard enough? :whistle: :D )
If you are feeling particularly generous, you could also shade it, though that may be asking a bit much, especially if you have other commitments at the moment.

Anyhow, I'll shut up now, and see what The_Gnat has to say. He is in charge of this project after all. :)

Slightly Off-Topic clarification of previous post.
Vulpine wrote:As much as I would love to now display a partially shaded sylph portrait, but things are starting to get busy. I have not the time now, and possibly for quite a while.

Er, I meant to say something along the lines of: I'd like to be able to present a partially shaded sylph, but things are starting to get busy.
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby doofus-01 » May 8th, 2017, 5:18 am

Vulpine wrote:
You are probably hurting your work (and the development of your skills, if you care) by using such a poor tool.

Just out of curiosity, what aspects of my work and skills am I hurting? I know little about drawing, (and can barely draw convincing stick figures), and it doesn't hurt to get as much knowledge out of this project as I can :)

As one of those fools who uses a mouse rather than a specialized drawing tool, I am also a little disturbed that someone would try to work on digital drawing with a track-pad (I assume we are talking about the thing on a laptop). I suppose you could do it if you zoom in enough, but it's basically like trying to give yourself a haircut with a lawnmower. Are you hurting your skills? Not sure, but it's hard to see how this will end well, and you are really creating artificial barriers for yourself.
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby darkbearlab » May 8th, 2017, 12:28 pm

I updated in my thread since I pretty much redone everything with my own style in the end. Check it if you have time.

Also actually I've PMed The_Gnat before these, and he agreed so I guess it's not something I should worry.
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby Vulpine » May 8th, 2017, 2:21 pm

Doofus-01: Yeah, I usually zoom in pretty close. Sometimes I don't zoom in that far, but only when I'm using a larger brush size. I guess if nothing else, 'knowing' that I can just use my trackpad will keep me from trying proper tools, meaning I'll be stuck with the limited functions of the trackpad. Thanks for addressing the question!
(BTW, I would never have guessed that your art was done with a mouse- but then again, I'm untrained in spotting that difference.)

DarkBearLab: In that case, go right ahead and ignore my previous post :mrgreen:
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby The_Gnat » May 12th, 2017, 9:43 pm

Yes i talked to darkbearlab and he/she is going to sketch the slyph portrait again!

And once again thank you for your help Vulpine! I will have your portrait in my next release of the Reign of the Lords add-on (as a portrait for the advancement of the slayer) :D
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby The_Gnat » September 2nd, 2017, 3:13 am

Its been a while since i posted anything on this thread but i found when reading through old art threads another pretty good but unfinished dragon portrait by LordBob:

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This portrait needs a little more work than the last but it has promise and it looks more 3 dimensional (and powerful) then the current fire dragon portraits i have seen. So if anyone at all is interested in commenting or giving a try coloring this in, or if anyone would be interested in reworking the belly of the dragon that would be great :D Also i thought it might be good to have a skeletal dragon portrait so if anyone would be interested in turning this into a skeletal dragon that also would be very good! 8)

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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby WTrawi » September 2nd, 2017, 6:13 am

I'll try it, but don't expect anything (even though I'm better than when you created this thread)
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby The_Gnat » September 2nd, 2017, 6:59 am

Great :D and don't feel any time pressure! Also if you want to post updates as you progress that would be cool! :D

(also are you going to make a fire dragon or skeletal dragon (or perhaps some other, ice dragon or etc.))
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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby WTrawi » September 2nd, 2017, 5:42 pm

The_Gnat wrote:(also are you going to make a fire dragon or skeletal dragon (or perhaps some other, ice dragon or etc.))


Well, I haven't think of that what kind of dragon can it be... at least it should be something that is completely new in the world of Wesnoth I think. Ice dragon can be an option; or maybe some dark night dragon who moves, flies (and murders haha) silently, ooor some kind of a mighty dragon who cannot breathe fire but is a huge legendary beast with tons of cool powers (such as making earthquakes, hypnotizing, creating a storm and so on). Which one do you like the most? :D (or if you would like something else, tell it :D)

The_Gnat wrote:Also if you want to post updates as you progress that would be cool! :D


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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby The_Gnat » September 2nd, 2017, 10:31 pm

or maybe some dark night dragon who moves, flies (and murders haha) silently


:D I personally like the idea of an evil dark dragon who has black wings and red eyes (or something like that) and breaths pure hatred out of his mouth ;)

That would be pretty unique, and this dragon portrait looks like the type of monster who might be an evil dragon, perhaps inspired by this sprite, but even more black and evil looking 8)

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Re: Unfinished portraits

Postby WTrawi » September 3rd, 2017, 10:43 am

How do you like this sprite for the evil dark dragon?

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