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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 9th, 2017, 2:31 pm

hi everyone! so, i fixed some TC issues of the domain protector, and made his arms spread wider:
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also, added 2 bonus versions of him: first, the one with slightly melted (or magically bleeding) wings, and another one without them at all.
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by kurt751 » February 10th, 2017, 2:13 pm

(Sorry for the delay but shortly after my post Wesnoth just disappeared from the web for a couple days. Routing SNAFU I guess.)

About the helmet: Yes, but I still don't necessarily see it as being metal. Still looks to me like silver hair with a red something on top of the head. I guess it's about the brain choosing "the most likely explanation", and in this case, for me, it's hair.
It's very difficult to convey detail with only a handful of pixels...

Maybe by adding some features (decorations?) making it look more helmet-like? A faint line might be enough, just something which invalidates the "it's just hair" explanation and makes you go "that can't be hair, oh, probably a helmet".
Or (but that might be just me again), if you make the red crest thingy the same silver color as the helmet? I don't know, but I think that might help. (Of course, disregard if having a colored crest is important.)

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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 10th, 2017, 2:28 pm

well, how about making the helmet's metal shading more realistic? like this:
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also, other 2 variants with this tweak:
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by kurt751 » February 10th, 2017, 2:32 pm

Definitely better!
Yes, that will do, now it looks like metal.

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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 10th, 2017, 2:36 pm

thanks!
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 18th, 2017, 11:01 am

hello everyone! so, i am back with art! so, since i in a faerie-improving rampage, i decided to improve the sprite of naiad, and make a portrait for lvl1 sprite:
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by zookeeper » February 18th, 2017, 12:33 pm

You might want to re-check the anatomy of that hand in the portrait... :whistle:

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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 18th, 2017, 12:35 pm

zookeeper wrote:You might want to re-check the anatomy of that hand in the portrait... :whistle:
i know that. i just copy-pasted the hand from sorceress, so it's not really expected to fit
EDIT:better?
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by matsjoyce » February 18th, 2017, 1:16 pm

:? The way I see it is that the hand should be the other way round, palm down. It looks like she's broken her wrist or something ATM. If you change the shading on the arm, that might fix the problem.

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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by beetlenaut » February 18th, 2017, 2:19 pm

The fit is not the biggest problem--you put a left hand on the right side.

Try to hold your right hand out like that with your palm up and the little finger on the outside, away from your body. (Really. Try it.) Then you will understand what people are saying. I don't know what you changed between the two pictures, but no amount of shading is going to make it look right. You will at least have to redo the linework to reverse the order of the fingers and draw a thumb on the outside.
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 18th, 2017, 2:48 pm

beetlenaut wrote:The fit is not the biggest problem--you put a left hand on the right side.

Try to hold your right hand out like that with your palm up and the little finger on the outside, away from your body. (Really. Try it.) Then you will understand what people are saying. I don't know what you changed between the two pictures, but no amount of shading is going to make it look right. You will at least have to redo the linework to reverse the order of the fingers and draw a thumb on the outside.
thanks for the detailed critique. Yeah, this was caused by the fact that i copied the sorceress's left arm to the faerie's right arm. Will fix that
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 18th, 2017, 4:43 pm

is this better now?
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btw, the original portrait had the palm facing down, but i needed to change it for the fire
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by Paulomat4 » February 18th, 2017, 4:48 pm

the arm is still completly twisted. htat is the biggest problem!
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by ForestDragon » February 18th, 2017, 4:49 pm

Paulomat4 wrote:the arm is still completly twisted. htat is the biggest problem!
well then, how do i make it look natural? :annoyed:
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Re: ForestDragon's Art

Post by zookeeper » February 18th, 2017, 6:09 pm

Giving her a thumb would be a good start. As it is, she simply doesn't have one.

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