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My (none-artist's) campaign art
Hello,
I am trying to draw a small portrait for these puma units on my campaign: However, (as a none artist) I am not sure how I can draw it well, especially his/her breath: --> EDIT: I mean BREAST, not breath:
Could anyone advise (or help) me? One of them is supposed to talk to the game leader as a loyal unit.
thank you.
I am trying to draw a small portrait for these puma units on my campaign: However, (as a none artist) I am not sure how I can draw it well, especially his/her breath: --> EDIT: I mean BREAST, not breath:
Spoiler:
thank you.
Last edited by SkyOne on November 4th, 2015, 3:57 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: My (none-artist's) campaign arts
What do you mean by "breath?" It doesn't look too bad as it stands already
Also for the sprites I'd make the L1 darker and the L2 lighter to distinguish them better.
Also for the sprites I'd make the L1 darker and the L2 lighter to distinguish them better.
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Ooops! I meant his breast!Crow_T wrote:What do you mean by "breath?" It doesn't look too bad as it stands already
This is a good point. Thank you!Crow_T wrote:Also for the sprites I'd make the L1 darker and the L2 lighter to distinguish them better.
In the game, they are actually hard to distinguish...
This may be the L2: I may keep its L1, though, because its color will be more wolf-like if I make it darker (actually, the L1 is a modified wolf in 1.6).
It also can be a fox (this is a jest) : ----------
EDIT: updated one (touched the breast + a few):
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For the sprites, I'd suggest making the sizes a little more different (make the level 1 smaller). At a glance, they look pretty similar, I'm not sure color change is enough to convey who is level what.
As for the portrait, are you aiming for a retro-style? I mostly ask because of the dithering, but the low-color-count shading could also be part of that.
It's not a bad portrait, although it is very tightly cropped. The head seems asymmetric, did you flip it periodically as you drew it?
As for the portrait, are you aiming for a retro-style? I mostly ask because of the dithering, but the low-color-count shading could also be part of that.
It's not a bad portrait, although it is very tightly cropped. The head seems asymmetric, did you flip it periodically as you drew it?
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Yeah, I thought it after Crow_T told me. A problem was that I had already animated them. I mean I had to make all of them smaller. So I just touched the base frame like this: I can distinguish them myself now in the game, but as you said, still similar. I may make the L1 smaller later.doofus-01 wrote:For the sprites, I'd suggest making the sizes a little more different (make the level 1 smaller). At a glance, they look pretty similar, I'm not sure color change is enough to convey who is level what.
Thank you.
I just drew it following this photo: http://www.lpzoo.org/animals/factsheet/pumadoofus-01 wrote:As for the portrait, are you aiming for a retro-style? I mostly ask because of the dithering, but the low-color-count shading could also be part of that.
I mean I don't have an enough skill to aim for anything, and to draw it differently. Could you tell me any suggestions? I mean I am not sure I can do what you say, but I can try at least.
This is good enough for me.doofus-01 wrote:It's not a bad portrait, although it is very tightly cropped.
Aah, you are right. I did not flip it or do anything on it, so it looks asymmetric...doofus-01 wrote:The head seems asymmetric, did you flip it periodically as you drew it?
I really appreciate your comments.
Anyway, this is another set of beasts on my new campaign (although I don't plan to draw their portraits): And this is another small portrait that I plan to install (this is for my Drake campaign):
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Any critical comments will be welcome.
thanks
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For what it's worth, the level 1 sprite animations are usually more important than others, so maybe you could make the level 2 & 3 bigger or different without screwing up animations too much. Assuming the pumas are strong units, of course, if sprite size implies unit strength.SkyOne wrote:Yeah, I thought it after Crow_T told me. A problem was that I had already animated them. I mean I had to make all of them smaller. So I just touched the base frame like this:
It's good that you have a reference. I think you tried to change the direction that the cat was looking, but kept the overall profile, so it ended up distorted. I drew some lines around where I would change things, and modified the eyes. I hope it makes sense (I am an amateur too, not a trained instructor). I see a strange mix of anti-aliasing in your image, how are you drawing this? It would be better to draw bigger, at least 410 X 410, then scale down. And don't use hard edged pencil; that's good for sprites, but not these things.SkyOne wrote:I mean I don't have an enough skill to aim for anything, and to draw it differently. Could you tell me any suggestions? I mean I am not sure I can do what you say, but I can try at least.
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Thank you so much. It helped me a lot for its improvement.doofus-01 wrote:It's good that you have a reference. I think you tried to change the direction that the cat was looking, but kept the overall profile, so it ended up distorted. I drew some lines around where I would change things, and modified the eyes. I hope it makes sense (I am an amateur too, not a trained instructor).
This is not the final, but better than before, isn't it?:
I cannot handle the soft edged brush as well drawing lines yet, so I use the hard edged pencil for the anti-aliasing by changing the colors. Using scale down will be the next step for me.doofus-01 wrote:I see a strange mix of anti-aliasing in your image, how are you drawing this? It would be better to draw bigger, at least 410 X 410, then scale down. And don't use hard edged pencil; that's good for sprites, but not these things.
It makes sense for sure. The L3 puma is stronger than Direwolf (the puma is a fighter, instead of a scout), but smaller than it (although it is big enough as comparing with human units):doofus-01 wrote:For what it's worth, the level 1 sprite animations are usually more important than others, so maybe you could make the level 2 & 3 bigger or different without screwing up animations too much. Assuming the pumas are strong units, of course, if sprite size implies unit strength.
Thank you again, doofus-01.
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Re: My (none-artist's) campaign art
Hello again,
I drew Goldhorn/Zlatorog unit (L1 only, not advances to L2) for my campaign.
Could anyone tell me what he/she thinks? Is it good enough or needs to be polished (I mean the sprite, not the portrait)? IIRC, I have not seen a real chamois even in zoos, so maybe, the neck is too long? Also, any advice for the portrait will be many thanks (updated): thanks
I drew Goldhorn/Zlatorog unit (L1 only, not advances to L2) for my campaign.
Could anyone tell me what he/she thinks? Is it good enough or needs to be polished (I mean the sprite, not the portrait)? IIRC, I have not seen a real chamois even in zoos, so maybe, the neck is too long? Also, any advice for the portrait will be many thanks (updated): thanks
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I think it is a good sprite, but it is not really in "wesnoth style". A picture is worth more than words, so below is my quick retouch of your sprite. I'm not saying it is "better", but I think it is more "in style". (But a few words: I think you could have used fewer colors, it would make adjustments easier - fewer choices & distractions) The portrait: The face (eye-cheek-nose) is well done! But the horns and shoulders seem kind of strange...SkyOne wrote:Could anyone tell me what he/she thinks? Is it good enough or needs to be polished (I mean the sprite, not the portrait)?
For the shoulders, it's like you were drawing a chamois-headed man? If so, then never mind. But if not, hopefully the bright-red lines help. Basically, draw more neck, forget the shoulders.
The horns look like pipes, I'd try to give them more of a taper and slightly curved junction with the skull.
Hope that helps. Keep at it, SkyOne.
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Thank you so much, doofus-01. It is much better looking from my point of view. I am very happy to use it. And it might be possible to use as a different purpose, something like:doofus-01 wrote:I think it is a good sprite, but it is not really in "wesnoth style". A picture is worth more than words, so below is my quick retouch of your sprite. I'm not saying it is "better", but I think it is more "in style". (But a few words: I think you could have used fewer colors, it would make adjustments easier - fewer choices & distractions)SkyOne wrote:Could anyone tell me what he/she thinks? Is it good enough or needs to be polished (I mean the sprite, not the portrait)?
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I really appreciate the advices.doofus-01 wrote:The portrait: The face (eye-cheek-nose) is well done! But the horns and shoulders seem kind of strange...
For the shoulders, it's like you were drawing a chamois-headed man? If so, then never mind. But if not, hopefully the bright-red lines help. Basically, draw more neck, forget the shoulders.
The horns look like pipes, I'd try to give them more of a taper and slightly curved junction with the skull.
Actually, what I tried to draw was his body under the face, instead of the shoulders, so his front legs were supposed to be just under the picture, but I start feeling that it looks like a chamois-headed man...
It still needs to be polished, but this is the updated one: Thank you for taking care of this forum recently, doofus-01.
Anyway, does anyone try to draw a portrait for the default falcon?
(well, I know the unit is too minor...)
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I wonder about that Wesnoth style. One of your changes is turning the head to show two eyes, sth. most 4-legged mainline animal sprites don't do. (Wolves, horses at least.) It does not look like a chamois to me.doofus-01 wrote:I'm not saying it is "better", but I think it is more "in style".
So here is my own take:
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