The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Fog wrote:...unless someone sees something!
Unfortunately I don't like your Grenadier. And it's the 'you probably need to start over' kind of dislikement. But fortunately for you I have some advice that I believe will help you:
- MOAR CONTRAST. I mean that the darkest color you use should be around black (maybe have a brightness of 7 or so), and the lightest should be almost white. Contrasting hue and saturation also helps a lot (you move the hue towards blue as the color gets darker and increase the saturation as the color gets darker) (that's a mindless rule, but it helps. You may want to read more on color theory)
- Less colors - having four or five colors forces you to have high contrast. It also makes it easier to control the colors - you don't have that many colors to chose from.
- Reference - it's hard to get the perspective and positions of every limb without a reference, and Google makes it quite easy to find a photo of someone doing the thing you want to portray.

It's been said over and over again on these forums and everyone heard about it, but you need to actually *do* it - for the next guy pick a reference, prepare a palette of no more than 15 colors (that's three for magneta, five shades of one color, four shades of another and you have three shades left - and you can use darkest shade of one color as darkest shade ever to save some shades).

The preachy tone is cool, I should do this more often.

Anyway, I've made a Grenadier. It may be a bit too bulky, and has some issues, like the back leg not being back enough and the front arm's forearm not being front enough (and probably to small), and probably some stuff I don't see now. If you want to edit and fix him, go ahead. If you're going to make a totally new version of Grenadier and discard this one, go ahead - it was one of the rare situations when I try to redraw someone's stuff to help him and I'm actually happy enough with the result to post it.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Nope, yours is fine and mine has no need to be used.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Wow, epic. Yeah, I think that one is a good replacement for the current sprite.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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TC'd it for you. Also, I found the face... irritating somehow, so I provided an edited version (which I'm not whatsoever demanding you use). I hope I'm not being too intrusive.

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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Yeah, now I can see there was something messed up with the visor, thanks for catching that, 8680. You're not being intrusive, that's my posts looking mean without me meaning it.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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I never said your posts were mean.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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@Moribund - Wasn't sure if that was directed towards me. Please elaborate.

Dragonchampion: Is the Gunner sprite ok to shade? Or would you like to see more?
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Gunner as in Zederian? I can't remember if there was a unit named the Gunner or not. Been a while since I went into the mod itself thanks to lack of time.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Dipsey:
I see two issues with the Gunner:
- the camera angle: I'm pretty sure the units should be seen from ~45 degrees angle, and here the camera is almost on the same level that the unit
- unit facing - right now it looks like he's facing in the direction of the red arrow, while I think it should be more like the green arrow.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Kanapka: Ok, thanks. I'll work on the facing. Right now tho I think it's due to the lack of shading.

Dragonchampion: Zederian, yes. I just couldn't remember the name of the race.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Here's a infected.
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Re: The War of Terrador - Complete overhaul time!

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Now I really like that style. It also keeps with the "humanoid-infected" view I have in my mind. However, its arms look a bit odd, I cannot put my finger on it.
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