Starting time

[malicor]

Hi,

I would like to have a random starting time each game.

Right now fractions with daylight seem to be slightly better ?

regards, Malicor

[JW]

That actually does bug me a little.

[turin]

*Shrug*. This is one of those things that would be bad for campaign scenarios, but good for MP games.

[Yogibear]

Have a look at this
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8104

[Disto]

I think it would be good for it to be set by the hoster, that way no problems for scenario designers, but it could be used by a cunning player in their favour.

[ILikeProgramming]

For campaigns, can't you just rorder the time-of-day macros so another one is first?

[Emmanovi]

For campaigns, can't you just rorder the time-of-day macros so another one is first?

*Shrug*. This is one of those things that would be bad for campaign scenarios, but good for MP games.

[Disto]

For campaigns, can't you just rorder the time-of-day macros so another one is first?

You can make 24 turn days if you want.

[JW]

You can make 24 turn days if you want.

That would be awesome!! On a huge map think how cool that would be in an epic campaign!!

Now THAT'S an idea I'd like to use in my own creations!

[toms]

I thonk you should can choose that in random in a scenario WML.

[turin]

For campaigns, can't you just rorder the time-of-day macros so another one is first?

Yes, but having a random starting time-of-day would make that not work. That was my point.

[Noyga]

I think it should be configurable in the scenario.
For MP games it would be mostly random and for campaigns mostly fixed i think (exept if the campaign maker wants random too)

[Tomsik]

You can make 24 turn days if you want.

That would be awesome!! On a huge map think how cool that would be in an epic campaign!!

Now THAT'S an idea I'd like to use in my own creations!

Try this:

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{DAWN}
{DAWN}
{DAWN}
{MORNING}
{MORNING}
{MORNING}
{AFTERNOON}
{AFTERNOON}
{AFTERNOON}
{DUSK}
{DUSK}
{DUSK}
{FIRST_WATCH}
{FIRST_WATCH}
{FIRST_WATCH}
{SECOND_WATCH}
{SECOND_WATCH}
{SECOND_WATCH}

Instead of this:

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{DAWN}
{MORNING}
{AFTERNOON}
{DUSK}
{FIRST_WATCH}
{SECOND_WATCH}

P.S.: This is not tested, but should work.

[ott]

[time] tags are read in sequence, and you can duplicate them, add different times of day, reorder them etc, to create different effects: see Under the Burning Suns for totally different times of day, or To the Harbour of Tirigaz from Son of the Black Eye for a scenario that takes place during a single night (but has 24 turns).

I've added a feature request at https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?func=det ... em_id=4799 about this.

[scott]

You would have to make some changes to WML to make it work. Time of day as it is presented to the player is something of an illusion. The game has no internal knowledge of time of day, nor is it aware of any typical time of day sequence.

The same system that makes time of day so flexible and easy to implement also makes it hard to do something like this. You need to change basic WML since time of day exists only in WML tags.

To allow random time of day start time and preserve the current system of defining times of day, you would need to either define time of day in a prestart event or allow [if] and [random] to exist under [scenario]. They were added to [story] to fulfill a need there, so I'm guessing it's not impossible.

Another way to go is to allow direct access to the internal time of day list (assuming one is created) by allowing the list to be rotated by a literal or random amount. In that case, the game becomes aware of the time of day. This could also allow you to use the time of day in a variable, which could be nice.

I don't know what kind of coding task it would be, so maybe I should stop talking out my rear. You could also use my start time randomizer. It works 100% for castles where the leader is surrounded, and it requires a small tweak for castles where the leader is free to roam around. (and it probably won't work on small maps where the leaders can fight within the first 6 turns)