Goblin Javelineer

Post by **Thrawn** » December 14th, 2005, 8:35 pm

Turin actually approved of this some time ago, so just bringing it back up, with my attempt at graphics.

For those who hadn't read the old post, goblin spearmen should be able to upgrade to a level one unit that throws spears from the distance--an act of cowardess that goblins would think of.

Post by **Thrawn** » December 14th, 2005, 8:40 pm

Can't get rest of pictures up, I'll try later.

Also an idea for level 2 spearman, because IMO the goblin/orc psyche is that of Warhammer, where they attempt to be more impressive than the rest in an effort to gain respect, so I though with addition of rouser, maybe jav. one branch would reach level two (as most real ones reach a level three, four) so...

Goblin Pikeman. Gives himself a cooler name, and scavenges dead for "trophies" to boast about. only slightly stronger, bit more hp

Post by **Thrawn** » December 18th, 2005, 9:49 pm

comments?

pigandforks · Post by **pigandforks** » December 19th, 2005, 8:54 am

he looks alot like the level 0 goblin and also...what is the point.

the 3rd Zar · Post by **the 3rd Zar** » December 19th, 2005, 8:02 pm

The point is to have something more to kill those blasted drakes

Dark Helmet · Post by **Dark Helmet** » December 19th, 2005, 9:51 pm

Another part of the point is that a unit line shouldn't end at level one. Even though it does have one before it, it needs one after or next to it to fit with the way the rest of the factions are set up.

Post by **turin** » December 19th, 2005, 11:32 pm

Dark Helmet wrote:Another part of the point is that a unit line shouldn't end at level one. Even though it does have one before it, it needs one after or next to it to fit with the way the rest of the factions are set up.

Factions being too similar is usually considered a bad thing.

IMHO, there's no reason to say lines can't end at level 1. Just, lines that do will usually only be used in MP.

scott · Post by **scott** » December 20th, 2005, 12:01 am

Dark Helmet wrote:Another part of the point is that a unit line shouldn't end at level one. Even though it does have one before it, it needs one after or next to it to fit with the way the rest of the factions are set up.

This was done on purpose. There's no reason for it to be homogenized. I think the goblin spearman is really strong for 8 gold. The limited line is part of the tradeoff.

Duke Guillermo · Post by **Duke Guillermo** » December 20th, 2005, 8:21 pm

I think that this should be an alternative upgrade at level 1, not a continuation in other words:

not:

goblin spearman => goblin impaler => goblin javelineer

but instead:

goblin spearman
=> goblin impaler
=> javelineer

That would be more interesting methinks.

Casual User · Post by **Casual User** » December 20th, 2005, 8:24 pm

The branching was, actually, the original idea.

The images look pretty good.

scott · Post by **scott** » December 21st, 2005, 1:23 am

units.wesnoth.org says the goblin rouser is part of the unit tree as a spearman upgrade (for 1.1). So, the line is getting some help, even if it's not in the way proposed here.

Post by **Thrawn** » December 21st, 2005, 12:36 pm

scott wrote:units.wesnoth.org says the goblin rouser is part of the unit tree as a spearman upgrade (for 1.1). So, the line is getting some help, even if it's not in the way proposed here.

I realize this, but just making more suggestions. I noticed when that was announced.