Dark Elves

Nyr Oagorith · Post by **Nyr Oagorith** » March 27th, 2005, 5:37 pm

personally i figured that there should be some race known as the dark elves, with white, black, or light purple skin, and white or black hair, and black or such armor, with some units such as:

dark elvish fighter
dark elvish corsair
dark elvish archer
dark elvish cavalry
dark elvish lord
dark elvish necromancer
etc.

and maybe some units connected to them like spiders and undead...

I dont have any pics etc., but I thought it owuld be a good idead for someone in the future to do this, or maybe even me...

Disto · Post by **Disto** » March 27th, 2005, 5:53 pm

I made a Drow a long time ago...

Post by **Jetrel** » March 27th, 2005, 6:53 pm

It's not that I have anything against dark elves, it's just that I'm not going to make them.
I have enough on my plate making the high elves.

If you want something like this, expect to do a mighty load of work on your own.

I mean - the difference between me and you is, I said "boy it would be cool if wesnoth had (mermaids, high elves, etc.)". But then I started the long and arduous process of forging the several hundred images required.

Please do. I'm sure they would have a use, but, be aware that if you do this, you have to go all the way. You've got to make a bunch of units, regardless, and if you want them in the standard distro, you've gotta animate them, because I'm not going to.

You also have to do a good job - as an example of another project - a batch of units being prepared: the "marauders" - I would say that they are somewhere between 70-90% of the needed quality for mainline. They're getting mighty close to being finished - in their previous revision, they were at about 20-40%. Shadow, for another example, has done a good deal of work that *was* good enough to get used.

MadMax · Post by **MadMax** » March 27th, 2005, 7:41 pm

quartex would want this 'drow' for the corrupted elf in scenario 3.

romnajin · Post by **romnajin** » March 27th, 2005, 11:39 pm

Are the high elves going to be ready for the next distro?

Post by **quartex** » March 28th, 2005, 12:26 am

MadMax wrote:quartex would want this 'drow' for the corrupted elf in scenario 3.

D&D does drow and it does it well. But I think that drow/dark elves you describe in wesnoth would be a copy of the D&D drow, and so they're not a race I am that excited about seeing implemented. Elves don't have to have dark skin and white hair to be evil.

But if the artwork is good, I might use a drow unit for scenario 3. However my idea was the the corrupted elf was just a normal elf who had been corrupted by a dark entity, thus he should look somewhat like his old self. A drow unit might be a bit too much of a change.

Still if you want to make the artwork for a new race, more power to ya! Best of luck.

Post by **turin** » March 28th, 2005, 1:06 am

romnajin wrote:Are the high elves going to be ready for the next distro?

Not a chance, I think. (Jetryl, correct me if i'm wrong). Mainly because the graphics aren't ready, but also because the unit idea would still need dave's approval, and there is a string freeze soon, so there is no chance for it to come in by 0.9.0.

Nyr Oagorith · Post by **Nyr Oagorith** » March 28th, 2005, 1:51 am

disto- oh

jetryl- well I kinda figured that all the people who are thinking of making graphics for the game are already busy so I dont expect something soon related to this, and if I do this, the graphics themselves mostly wont be me, my friend alec (droftrah), who doesnt really know im here would be doing most of the actual drawing

madmax/quartex- i dont think dark would be good for corrupt elves, i mean in my opinion, because corrupt elves wouldnt change just because their intentions are now more....corrupt....

MadMax · Post by **MadMax** » March 28th, 2005, 2:36 am

I don't want to make a new race, I was just discussing using this unit's graphics.

Nyr Oagorith wrote:madmax/quartex- i dont think dark would be good for corrupt elves, i mean in my opinion, because corrupt elves wouldnt change just because their intentions are now more....corrupt....

My interpretation was that Garak was possessed by the undead leader. So yes, he would have been changed.

Disto · Post by **Disto** » March 28th, 2005, 9:07 am

If you are thinking of DnD Drow then they are not entirely evil, only usually.

Post by **Jetrel** » March 28th, 2005, 9:27 am

turin wrote:
romnajin wrote:Are the high elves going to be ready for the next distro?
Not a chance, I think. (Jetryl, correct me if i'm wrong). Mainly because the graphics aren't ready, but also because the unit idea would still need dave's approval, and there is a string freeze soon, so there is no chance for it to come in by 0.9.0.

They are at least a few revisions away. I do want them in before 1.0, though.

None of the animations are done, although I do have quite a few of the base images done.

Post by **Sangel** » March 28th, 2005, 4:06 pm

Jetryl wrote:None of the animations are done, although I do have quite a few of the base images done.

If you ever feel the need for a motivation boost, you should throw what you have on the Art Forum. If they're to your usual standards, there'll be an orgy of enthusiasm.

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » May 30th, 2005, 5:42 pm

Hey, look what I found! Too bad this Nyr Oagorith dude doesn't hang around anymore, he'd probably like to see what we've come up with.

Disto · Post by **Disto** » May 30th, 2005, 8:17 pm

Assassin u fool u were around before this thread started. You haven't found it you've just unearthed it. And i believe he has posted in the dark elves thread.

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » May 31st, 2005, 2:34 am

yeah, your right, I was around before this came up, but I never posted in it before so I forgot about it. I remember someone saying that this idea was proposed before, so I thought I'd look it up. What's wrong with that?

And what's the difference between found and unearthed?