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Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by raptoRus » February 12th, 2012, 10:49 am

Hello guys,

We(two persons) are making an Mod for Battle for Wesnoth, around 40% are done.

It is the World of Wesnoth in the dark future, where is only war ^^
So the elves will change to something Eldar/Protoss faction, undead to Necrons and so on.
Sure, we will NOT COPY the Units/Names of the Warhammer/Starcraft/Startroopers Universum, but you will see conformities in style.
So what do you think, any thoughts?
We dont hurt any copyrights?

Here a image of the Space marine, you see we dont copy, we create a new style.

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Madlok » February 12th, 2012, 4:10 pm

In Wesnoth you have "orcs", name used and created first time by Tolkien. So why anybody have to worry about names like "space marines", "necrons" etc.? I just don't get it.
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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by raptoRus » February 12th, 2012, 9:41 pm

Because of copyrights, for example the "40.000" is/should be a trademark.
so we use 45000 or maybe 4000.... to create a connection between the name and the mod
for the user. So he can see what this mod will bring to his harddrive ^^
maybe somebody better suggestions?
sorry for bad english

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Temuchin Khan » February 12th, 2012, 9:57 pm

Madlok wrote:In Wesnoth you have "orcs", name used and created first time by Tolkien. So why anybody have to worry about names like "space marines", "necrons" etc.? I just don't get it.
Actually, Tolkien didn't create the word "Orc." It comes from the Latin word "orcus," which was the name of some sort of god of the underworld, and was used at one time as another word for a sea monster. Tolkien just gave the word a new meaning.

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Madlok » February 13th, 2012, 12:43 pm

Temuchin Khan wrote: Actually, Tolkien didn't create the word "Orc." It comes from the Latin word "orcus," which was the name of some sort of god of the underworld, and was used at one time as another word for a sea monster. Tolkien just gave the word a new meaning.
So Necrons is from Latin too XD
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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Elmor » February 15th, 2012, 8:54 pm

the point is not where did they came, but are they copyrighted, as i think

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by MattDakka » February 16th, 2012, 1:10 am

Madlok wrote:
Temuchin Khan wrote: Actually, Tolkien didn't create the word "Orc." It comes from the Latin word "orcus," which was the name of some sort of god of the underworld, and was used at one time as another word for a sea monster. Tolkien just gave the word a new meaning.
So Necrons is from Latin too XD
No, Necrons came from the Greek word: "nekros", which means "dead".
In Latin "dead" is "mortuus".
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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by catwhowalksbyhimself » February 16th, 2012, 2:11 am

"Space Marine" while being the term of a side in Warhammer 40k, is also a generic term meaning simply a marine in space and should be perfectly safe to use. Necron, on the other hand, is not a generic term, although a tech based undead race should be fine as long as they aren't exact copies and use a different name.

The marine design posted here is quite different from the 40k one, so that should be fine.

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by raptoRus » February 17th, 2012, 1:15 pm

thx, guys

have you read what happened to the populer 40k mod for the vassalengine? sad.
sorry for bad english

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Nillin » August 24th, 2012, 1:08 am

Hey, sounds cool and would love to be involved provided its still going (last post is 6 months old). Just to be clear though, is this just a sci-fi era or are you trying to sort of "update" wesnoth with a sci-fi feel, that is the "future loyalists", for lack of a better term, will still feel and play like the mainline loyalist faction but with space marines, snipers and speeder bikes and such?

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by MLShax » August 25th, 2012, 9:16 pm

actually it is latin, it is from the word necare-a verb meaning=to kill

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by MLShax » August 25th, 2012, 9:17 pm

mortuus is the noun meaning dead

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Celtic_Minstrel » August 26th, 2012, 3:00 am

Actually, mortuus is also a verb (specifically, the perfect tense used in conjunction with an auxiliary verb... which is rare in Latin on an active voice verb, but still). The infinitive is "mori", so the root is "mor", not "mort".

You're correct about "necare", though. Of course, killing is rather different from dying, and the Greek etymology for Necron makes a lot more sense (assuming they're supposed to be necromancers; I don't actually know much about Warhammer 40k). At least, the word "necromancer" is derived from Greek rather than Latin; even ignoring the "mancer" part, it wouldn't make sense for it to be derived from latin where the "nec" root implies killing, rather than Greek where the "nek" root implies dying. Necromancers deal with death, not killing. (That some necromancers may deal with both is entirely beside the point; the original meaning of the word was simply someone who communicated with the spirits of the dead.)
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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by MLShax » August 26th, 2012, 12:59 pm

sorry, i meant mortuus is an adjective

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Re: Wesnoth 45000 Era

Post by Celtic_Minstrel » August 26th, 2012, 5:50 pm

It's all three. Many words cannot be exclusively classified as fulfilling just one "part of speech" role.
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