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Re: Wose Faction

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I forgot to thin them down. I was gonna do that. =D Thanks. Also, I didn't notice the fire resistance that the cactose do have so excuse my mistake.

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You know how some cacti have a reddish blob thing on top? I think that would look better than the flower. Earlier someone suggested removing it, and I think having a red spikey thing on top instead would make it look more intimidating (i.e. don't make its head red, just give it an extra segment on top of its head, almost like a crown). The flower works good for the L1 cactose but the L2 needs something more, and I think this would do it.

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I think you're right, i was thinking about changing it but i had no idea what to change it for. Having a little crown would definately make it look more superior-like. Thanks for that.

For the spore, i may be wrong but i'm pretty sure the idea was for it to be a scout like unit that can move really fast and capture villages quickly for the faction and then when you want it to it "takes root" and after a turn it matures into a sapling (or into any L1 unit) but during that turn it can still be attacked like it is a unit. Sounds like a bit of a challenge to me but if you can do it then that would be awesome! =D But if you can't be bothered then just try something simpler and we'll get everyone's ideas together and pick which one we think works the best. =]

If you're thinking of making a simple sprite for it just take a look at dixie's post a little while ago and make something like that. but again, if you can't be bothered just make it like a floating circle or something. =P I'm sure that's simple enough to make on...paint? =P

EDIT: Also I wouldn't mind feed back on the actual attacking "animation" of the elder cactose. Should i give it more frames to make it smoother?
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Sorry I can't comment on your art much, as I know nothing about art. I think the animation looks fine, myself.

So I can go ahead and do the right-click option then. I just didn't know how you wanted it done, as you'd never really posted your own opinion on the idea. WML coding is easy compared to real programming. Code is my LIFE. It won't be hard.

As far as making a sprite for it, meh. I've messed around in Photoshop and I'm currently doing most of the graphics for a PC game, but I'm no artist. I can make a temporary one, I guess. I was getting all geared up to go into raw-meat-red-bull-code-like-the-wind mode, and here you come along asking me to make a sprite! :augh:

Just kidding. Shouldn't take me too long. :mrgreen:

Glad you like my idea about the red cactus blob thingy. I anxiously await the result.
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Yeh i think the right click option would be really cool. =] Also, i didn't mean for you to make a sprite, it was more of a "get something that you can test your code on". =P Unless you want to make a goblin spearman "take root" in the ground. =D Hahaha. Also, should i be making that blob thing TC or should i leave it red? I think TC would be good and useful but it could end up looking quite strange. =\
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Well, I tried both, TC and no-TC (red). This is the elder cactose with the crown thingo. Personally i liked the idea but when i put it into action it sorta died. Looks a tad [censored] but what the heck. I don't like my attempt but if anyone wants to try it out then go for it. =]
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Maybe a little bit smaller? I preferred them before.
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I also preferred the flower, the big red thing looks like a growth. Even when it is smaller it's pretty silly. If anyone else can do any better then it's an open invitation but i think for now we'll stick to the flower.

We could always have a L3 with that thing instead. I like the L2 how it is. Also, anyone good on names? "Elder" is sorta taken. =\
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There it is. A bit smaller and now it blends a bit better. I still think it looks silly but you know. Whatever.
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I think the problem is that it looks too much like a hat. When you see these things on real cacti they are actually a separate segment on top. In other words, there's a squished/pinched part in between the head and the crown. It's kind of hard to describe.

As far as colors, I prefer TC (I hadn't thought of that when I posted the idea). I don't think it would look silly. I mean, cacti are supposed to look exotic! What's exotic about a plain old flower? There's meadows and meadows full of 'em. And the L1 already has the flower. Don't get me wrong, I like flowers as much as the next guy. But they just aren't very exotic (except maybe orchids or other rare flowers, I guess).

Whatever though, it's your artwork. I guess I'm biased towards my own idea :?

I think "Tough Cactose" would work well, though it's kind of bland. But cacti are supposed to be tough.
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Yeh I don't think i have enough skill or experience with cacti to be able to make it look more real. For now we'll stick to having a flower there like the L1 until someone else decides that it's a good idea to try it out.

For the level 3 i was thinking of giving him thicker spikes. Now I know that cacti in real life have needles and not spikes, please do not give me the botanist lecture on how they aren't thick. PLEASE!!! =P But yeh i tried it out and it looks pretty cool in my opinion. Besides, it is a fantasy based game right? =D It's not done i got like half way through and then thought i'd check to see if i should continue or not. =]
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Try a different stance, particularly maybe adding more branching or more limbs. Woses don't have to just have two branches for arms.
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So you thinking I should make him bigger too? Only problem with that being that the branches on a cactus are all much the same and don't particularly branch from other branches either. It's more branching from different points around the trunk. =\ I gave it a try so now he has three branches. The one top left is supposed to be coming out of his upper back and obviously not finished yet, it's a work in progress.
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Re: Wose Faction

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Back on the idea of a "strangler" unit. I tweaked my old scout cause he had a very vine-like twisty body and came up with this as an extra idea to throw out there.
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