Minotaur Faction : The Era Of Strife

[Quietus]

Ok newer faction tree. Still looking for another Minotaur foot soldier line, and the flyer or swimmer unit.

Apart from that its just adding to the current lines we have really.

EDIT: table removed - see first page

[Temuchin Khan]

Still looking for...the flyer or swimmer unit.

How about a gargoyle? It would seem to fit. Or has it already been suggested?

[JW]

Still looking for...the flyer or swimmer unit.

How about a gargoyle? It would seem to fit. Or has it already been suggested?

I wonder where that idea came from.

What happened to the roc idea?

[Quietus]

How about a gargoyle? It would seem to fit. Or has it already been suggested?

I wonder where that idea came from.

What happened to the roc idea?

It seemed to get swamped under the idea of including a greek mythological unit. I still like the idea, as it also adds another agical attack.

The Gargoyle sounds cool. And it does fit in witht the faction (or at least i could see it fitting in with the faction).

I think for now though, we need to start thinking of some stats for the current units as well. I have a rough idea for what they should be, but im not very good at ablancing and with no idea what the faction they will be going into will be like its balancing will be like stabbing in the dark. For now (just to make them as playable ASAP), i think there should be an era with the default + minotaurs. It would make balancing ok for now and would allow them to be playable until blueblazes era is playable.

[kesnar]

Well I don't like two things:

1)The Minotaur King is like someone has hit him in the head and now he is seeing stars. .

2)The centaur is not a real centaur.I mean a centaur is half human and half hore.Your centaur is like half bull and half horse.



And one question:

What will the shaman be???

[Quietus]

Well I don't like two things:

1)The Minotaur King is like someone has hit him in the head and now he is seeing stars. .

2)The centaur is not a real centaur.I mean a centaur is half human and half hore.Your centaur is like half bull and half horse.



And one question:

What will the shaman be???

1.Yeah lol, i agree some work is required on his face. Though he is a rather slow minded creature..a bit like a troll if you will ^^

But that will be fixed in the next faction tree update

2.Well, i didnt really want a human form in the faction. The minotaur head therefore fixed this. It would look wierd to have a half human/half horse in a minotaur army. Although a centaur is a half human half horse, im sure theres nothing to say it cant have a beast head. maybe im wrong

And the Shaman i hear you ask? lol Pretty much a minotaur in robes with a wooden staff, possible wearing a ram sull as a mask. Im still working on the concept and starting the actual sprite tonight.

[Gauteamus]

There is one obvious choice for a weakish scout-like flying unit in a faction of brutes loosely based on the Minotaur mythos:

the Icarus --upgrades to--> the Daedalus

In the myth (or at least one version of it), Daedalus and his son Icarus are trapped in the Labyrinthic prison Daedalus has built for the mighty king Minos. In order to escape, Daedalus fashions pairs of wings for himself and his son out of wax and feathers, and warns his son not to fly too close to the sun, lest the wax melt. Of course Icarus is overtaken by the experience of flight, soars too high, and falls to the ground, killing himself.
Well known story, campaign potential, WINGM (Wesnoth Is Not Greek Myth, I tried to make the acronym more MINGW-like, but failed)

Possible unitWML ideas (from a WML illiterate):

• the Icarus unit looses flight (1 MP most terrains) in daytime
• but still has lawful alignment? in an otherwise chaotic faction?
• lava is obviously impassable terrain (is it possible to discern lava from chasm in terms of movetype?)
• maybe implement some sort of kamikaze mechanism, e.g some way to use flying even in daytime, but at a risk of falling to the ground, getting killed or injured?

[Jodwin]

What about huge eagles for fliers? Just imagining a minotaur king standing on a cliff with a monstrous, huge lvl 2 eagle resting on his arm gives off some cool vibes.

Well okay, it's pretty silly. I mean, really silly, but so are half bull, half men too so I think it fits.

[cretin]

actually jodwin we have been discussing that. a Roc is basically one big bad eagle (some mythology put it at the size of mature dragons)

[Quietus]

actually jodwin we have been discussing that. a Roc is basically one big bad eagle (some mythology put it at the size of mature dragons)

Indeed and ive decided thats the unit they're going to have

lvl 1 Eagle ---> lvl 2 Roc (w/t added lightning attack)

@Gauteamus

Though you're idea is interesting and actually a very good one. I want really to refrain from using human, or human like creatures from this faction (hence why the centaur is half horse half minotaur). Plus i would have though Icarus would ahve been against the Minotaurs not allied with them.

[diekil]

A centaur wouldn't look strange along with minotaurs try it out and see.

Yeah I love rocks especially when phoenixs and roc fight eachother I like both of that birds.

Grtz,

Ogotai

[kesnar]

@Quietus

Well for the centaur I think that if you want non-human centar then why not put horns like "Heroes 3" Devil(I see that you are a lot inspired form HoMM)?I think that it would be btter this way.



P.S.:Anything you want about greek mythology ask me(I'm greek)

[Quietus]

@Quietus

Well for the centaur I think that if you want non-human centar then why not put horns like "Heroes 3" Devil(I see that you are a lot inspired form HoMM)?I think that it would be btter this way.



P.S.:Anything you want about greek mythology ask me(I'm greek)

Hmm is there anychance you could show me a screen shot, as i havnt actualled played much of HOMM. My main influence us actually from Warlords Battle Cry. Im taking a break from spriting atm. Ands this time it is a real break lol, ive got just too much revision and coursework to do, to spend hours on the computer editing and drawing sprites. But i assure you that as of this time next week i should be able to get back to it.


Im currrently making the Roc and Eagle. Almost finnished the Roc, and the Eagle shouldnt be too hard to do.

[cretin]

heroes 3 you say? well im having issues putting up pic's so ill just give you a website.
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/he ... erno.shtml

should be at the very bottom of the page.

EDIT: meant if you scroll all the way down bottom ^^

[kesnar]

Emmm not exactly the bottom, this is arch devil.
I thoughtabout devil.