Swamp Elves (Development Stage:Published/Playtesting)

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 4:13 am

It would be greatly appreciated if someone did the cfgs for me

heres a unit tree

Archer Line
Swamp Archer-->Swamp Marksman-->Swamp Sharpshooter (basic)
-->Swamp Hunter -->Swamp Master (ranger and avenger)

Fighter Line
Swamp Fighter-->Swamp Twinblade-->Swamp Blademaster (hero line)
-->Swamp Captain-->Swamp Marshal (leadership)

Scout Line
Swamp Scout-->Swamp Rider-->Swamp Horsemaster (scouts)

Mage Line
Swamp Shaman-->Swamp Druid-->Swamp Fairy

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 4:15 am

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FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 4:26 am

Archer Line:
Swamp Archer
HP:30 MP:5 XP:36 Cost:15
Sword (blade) 5-2 melee
Bow (pierce) 5-4 ranged

Swamp Marksman
HP:38 MP:5 XP:70
Sword (blade) 6-2 melee
Bow (pierce) 9-4 marksman

Swamp Hunter
Herblore*
HP:43 MP:5 XP:65
Sword (blade) 7-3 melee
Bow (pierce) 7-4 ranged

Swamp Sharpshooter
HP:48 MP:5
Sword (blade) 7-2 melee
Bow (pierce) 10-5 marksman

Swamp Master
Medicine Lore*,swampstalk
HP:54 MP:5
Sword (blade) 8-4
Bow (pierce) 10-4

*Herblore is an ability that regenerates 4 HP when in swamp.
*Medicine lore regens 8 hp when in swamp

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 5:30 am

Fighter Line:
Swamp Fighter
HP:34 MP:5 XP:35
Sword (blade) 5-4
Bow (pierce) 3-3

Swamp Twinblade
HP:52 MP:5 XP:67
Sword (blade) 6-5
Bow (pierce) 6-3

Swamp Captain
Leadership
HP:50 MP:5 XP:75
Sword (blade) 7-4
Bow (pierce) 5-3

Swamp Blademaster
HP:72 MP:5
Sword (blade) 8-6
Bow (pierce) 8-3

Swamp Marshal
Leadership
HP:65 MP:5
Sword (blade) 10-4
Bow (pierce) 8-3

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 5:46 am

Scout Line
Swamp Scout
HP:33 MP:8 XP:30
Sword (blade) 5-3 melee
Bow (pierce) 5-2 ranged

Swamp Rider
HP:44 MP:9 XP:60
Sword (blade) 8-3
Bow (pierce) 8-2

Swamp Horsemaster
HP:55 MP:9
Sword (blade) 8-4
Bow (pierce) 8-3

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 5:59 am

Mage Line
Swamp Shaman
Herblore
HP:28 MP:5 XP:35
Staff (impact) 2-2
Swamp Blast (impact) 4-3 poison

Swamp Druid
Medicine Lore
HP:35 MP:5 XP:80
Staff (impact) 3-2
Swamp Blast (impact) 7-3 poison
Swamp Chill (cold) 10-2 magical

Swamp Fairy
Medicine Lore
HP:50 MP:6
Fairy Touch (impact) 4-2 magical
Swamp Blast (impact) 8-3 poison
Swamp Chill (cold) 11-2 magical

playtom · Post by **playtom** » August 26th, 2007, 5:09 pm

firemaster, be clear on who's doing the unit cfg. i'm currently working on it. and it seems theres another couple downloads of your sprites. anyone who's working on it please post a note and we might be able to work something out so that there's no repeated making of the unit files.

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 26th, 2007, 10:14 pm

Playtom,could you please post any specials HERE so that I can approve of them.I need to know what specials there are so that i can make them fit with the story.

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 27th, 2007, 6:32 am

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,I think that the Swamp Twinblade is a bit underpowered (compared to Elvish Hero)

ABILITIES

*=probably entered
?=will be debated

*New ability-Swampstalk-lets the unit be invisible in swamp
*new ability-Medicine Lore-heals 4 hp while in swamp-perhaps for shaman?
?new ability-Ready Defence-does double damage in defence.

traverser · Post by **traverser** » August 27th, 2007, 2:24 pm

FireMaster wrote:Archer Line

Are you sure the bow strings would not be ruined by swamp vapors, extreme humidity, etc.
There are other ranged weapons you could go for(sling and spear mostly)

Just my 2 cents

playtom · Post by **playtom** » August 27th, 2007, 5:21 pm

all right firemaster, these are some of the abilities i'm working on. currently only 4 unit cfg are finished out of 17.

swampstalk:units with this ability will be invisible to enemy unit unless it's adjacent to or has attacked during the turn.

it's fairly easy to do. you get cavestalk or ambush then just filter the location to swamp only

medicine lore:it's still unclear about whether make this heal the unit 4hp or 8hp, but both is easy to do under regenerate.

healing:do you want to divert a mage line to 2 seperate trees?like one in the wood elves, so we can have mages as well as healers. i could do it if you want. just gonna take some extra time.

the ready defense i think will not be an ability. it's too powerful for anyunit. but i can add a couple of hp to the swamp twinblade if you like.

tell me what you think about these abilities, remember, the swamp elves don't have to be powerful, they fight well in swamps.

FireMaster · Post by **FireMaster** » August 27th, 2007, 9:26 pm

i dont want a healer mage line!

medicine lore should be 8-herblore-4

Give swampstalk to master

Post by **F8 Binds...** » August 28th, 2007, 9:36 pm

Firemaster- Just a general note- You probably should come up with almost all original names, and atleast somewhat original stats for the "Stolen Units" As I like to call them. Quite frankly, the archer-marksman-sharpshooter and fighter-captain-marshal lines seem to be almost the exact same as their elven counterparts. I understand if they're slightly similar, as so many names and such have popped up in the past it's almost impossible to come up with all original names. This faction seems alot like one I've secretly been creating lately. My faction has more hints of originality in it though...

Behold the title of my faction...

"The Nightshades..."

(For those of you that have bad sight- I guess you need to get a magnifying glass out.)

(BTW, I suggest coming up with a slightly different name for your faction. Notice in UTBS there's a race called the "Quenoth Elves"... more commonly called the "Desert Elves". Perhaps you could do something likewise.)

playtom · Post by **playtom** » August 29th, 2007, 12:16 am

really, it isn't my intention to work on this faction, it's solely firemaster's idea. although i have to admit it shares a striking rresemblance with the wood elves. the swamp elves will be supplied with 2 or 3 new unit trees(example, blowpiper, lizard/frog rider), but only under the condition that some great wesnothian artist are willing to provide the sprites. for now the idea is just to establish a strong base for the faction and able to play it. in the near future, the main focus will shift to creating a uniqueness for the faction and perhaps by adding a couple other race into the game and creating an era.

progress update:6 out of 17 units finished encoding. abilities and era/faction cfg is still undone.

Post by **F8 Binds...** » August 29th, 2007, 1:01 am

When I said my faction was very, VERY similar, I meant I have 1 or 2 units that are almost the exact same. And I've found temporary art for one of them. I saw this thread. And yes, I thought it was dead, seeing as Firemaster had nobody to do art for him or do cfg's. I have exact stats for a Toad Rider to be used for my faction, though he uses poison, probably unlike yours, and a blowgunner which uses slow instead of poison on his ranged dart attack. Similar? Absolutely. My faction though otherwise is completely different- none of my units uses a bow, and none of my units are on horses. Unique resists, Low strike ranged attacks, and nightstalk are included. My faction does better in forest and swamp and caves, though not as well on hills and mountains. Oddly enough, I actually started creating it before I started this thread. And oddly enough, the faction I describe has 2 similar units. Though they'll only be in the same era if both get into EE.

If mine doesn't get into EE, there's a chance I'll combine it with Jamini's Agari era. If you really want to show how I had an original idea, I'll post stats here as long as they aren't rudely copied and pasted into something else. Though my faction doesn't have elves before it.

THE NIGHTSHADES

(My faction is currently completely playable and you can get it from me for testing purposes only.)