New idea...

[NurlorVoronwe]

Hi, i forgot my last password, and i delete my last email, so i create another account... well, i think anybody knows something about me jeje...

I wanna create a faction with old civilizations, like Carthago, Greece, Rome, Hispania, Gallia and Egypt.
What do you thing about that?
im doing carthaginians now:

Lybian native
Celtiberian
Lusitanian
Balearic slingers
Numidians
Citizen cavalry
Sacred Legionnaire
Elephants

i'll wait for your opinions
thanks

[Turuk]

Welcome then, even if you have been around before.

People have made efforts before to make factions based directly or indirectly on ancient civilizations (for an actual completed effort, check the Imperial Era). It is incredibly hard to give you an opinion based on what you have said so far because there are none of the normal questions to ask, about the factions' backstory, their unit style, or anything like that. It is all already recorded history, so people can just look it up online if they want.

You are most likely to get useful opinions if you post up a more detailed/complete unit tree, giving some indications as to the strengths/weaknesses and attack types of the various units.

[Snappl]

Hi, i forgot my last password, and i delete my last email, so i create another account... well, i think anybody knows something about me jeje...

I wanna create a faction with old civilizations, like Carthago, Greece, Rome, Hispania, Gallia and Egypt.
What do you thing about that?
im doing carthaginians now:

Lybian native
Celtiberian
Lusitanian
Balearic slingers
Numidians
Citizen cavalry
Sacred Legionnaire
Elephants

i'll wait for your opinions
thanks

I'd assume that doing a civilization remembered for it's port would be sorta difficult.

Also, you may want to drop Spain and add an asian civ. That'd be fair.

[NurlorVoronwe]

This is the tree:

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                          Lybian native--> lybian figther--> veteran lybian
                          celtiberian--> celtiberian chief
                          lusitanian--> lusitanian slayer--> lusitanian assassin
                          balearic slinger--> (i dont know how to name him...or the same)
                          numidian scout--> numidian rider--> numidian commander
             citizen--> nobleman--> citizen cavalry--> high cavalry
                                --> sacred legionnaire--> guards' general
                          elephant--> veteran elephant--> war elephant

I'm not sure about some names, but i think you can help me.

And about drop spain and add asian civ, i dont know, i prefer european civs, specifically roman territory...
and i saw another faction with samurais and others... anyway thanks for the recommendations

ps. I have already played imperial era, lots of times, lavinians are like romans, but a little different...but in general, its a different propose

[Snappl]

Well, you've done your homework. I looked at the tree and was like WTF. Celtiberian. Then i was like, Gewgol timez!

You've gotten your homework done, like good.

As in, There's no way you just randomly did this. you just get out of some kind of world history class or summit? At least for my example, it looks like you know what you're doing.


On the Asian thing, i was really thinking more of the middle east. like, well it's blatantly obvious that Persia would be the one i'm recommending, as you're already making the sprites for persia's famous elephants..

[Turuk]

There is also the horse oriented culture of the Huns. Not to mention all of the barbarian tribes of northern Europe and the isles that controlled significant territory, and which could provide unique unit trees.

[NurlorVoronwe]

Well, you've done your homework. I looked at the tree and was like WTF. Celtiberian. Then i was like, Gewgol timez!

You've gotten your homework done, like good.

As in, There's no way you just randomly did this. you just get out of some kind of world history class or summit? At least for my example, it looks like you know what you're doing.


On the Asian thing, i was really thinking more of the middle east. like, well it's blatantly obvious that Persia would be the one i'm recommending, as you're already making the sprites for persia's famous elephants..

thanks, i like history very much, and i'm studying that... and i did a investigation...
about persia, can be, i'll try to do it...

i have already done two elephants, but i dont know how to make the shadow... can you help me?

[TheGreatRings]

Why not make it truely global, and throw in some American civs? Aztecs, Incans, and Mayans come to mind.

Either way though, this is a cool idea.

[Akkarin345]

A lot of old civilaisations contains myths and legends, or is this a faction strictly on human lines ( and animals ) just wondering if you wanted magic you could include units from various mythologies etc.

[NurlorVoronwe]

A lot of old civilaisations contains myths and legends, or is this a faction strictly on human lines ( and animals ) just wondering if you wanted magic you could include units from various mythologies etc.

mmm, i can put a chaman, its a good idea...

Why not make it truely global, and throw in some American civs? Aztecs, Incans, and Mayans come to mind.

Either way though, this is a cool idea.

i think that if i add american civ, my faction is going to be a little extensive...
i finished elephant in third level...

[Snappl]

i think that if i add american civ, my faction is going to be a little extensive...
i finished elephant in third level...

Not to mention that the american civs were way behind Europeans technologically..

[Turuk]

Not to mention that the american civs were way behind Europeans technologically..

Or if you read his first post, he is doing ancient civilizations, so with the exception of the Mayans... the Aztecs and the Incas were not full-blown civilizations until the 12th and 13th centuries.

[Snappl]

Not to mention that the american civs were way behind Europeans technologically..

Or if you read his first post, he is doing ancient civilizations, so with the exception of the Mayans... the Aztecs and the Incas were not full-blown civilizations until the 12th and 13th centuries.

He didn't define ancient.
For all i know, he could consider anything before the automobile ancient..

Lots of people would group New World Civs with the European ones of hundreds of years earlier. It's not like they advanced much in the hundreds of years apart, except for astronomy...

Overall, American "Ancient" civs would suck. They have... Bows and Swords. No mounts or anything, and that's just not... cool.

[Turuk]

He didn't define ancient.

He specifically said old civilizations, not to mention that the factions he listed are all of that type.


On a side note, watch your language. Using foul language in any form, especially to insult others, is not allowed and will result in a ban.

[NurlorVoronwe]

Or if you read his first post, he is doing ancient civilizations, so with the exception of the Mayans... the Aztecs and the Incas were not full-blown civilizations until the 12th and 13th centuries.

He didn't define ancient.
For all i know, he could consider anything before the automobile ancient..

Lots of people would group New World Civs with the European ones of hundreds of years earlier. It's not like they advanced much in the hundreds of years apart, except for astronomy...

Overall, American "Ancient" civs would suck. They have... Bows and Swords. No mounts or anything, and that's just not... cool.

well, i consider this "ancient" era before the fall of Roman empire of occident, automobile was since 1700 to 1800, and that's a lot of time...