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Post by Breeblebox » December 9th, 2004, 8:48 pm

..and defending


(Attack animations are on the previous page)
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Post by Shadow » December 9th, 2004, 8:58 pm

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Post by turin » December 9th, 2004, 10:08 pm

the second attack animation looks wierd... when stabbing like that, i'm pretty sure the flag would never go to the bottom, it would sort of wrap around the spear. then when he pulls back the spear, it would flare forward.

And right now its pretty obvious you used copy/paste to move the flags in the attack animations. thats one of the reasons they look fake. :)
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Post by Breeblebox » December 9th, 2004, 10:25 pm

hmm, the flag wouldn't fall beneath the spear when held horizontal? Gravity + cloth = fall. Perhaps I didn't make them clear enough, attack1 frame is simply moving the spear to the 'attack' position, this is why the flag streams along behind it, the attack2 frame is the stab, at which point the flag has obeyed gravity (fallen beneath the spear), and trails behind the motion of the stab. Maybe I should add a third frame to transition more clearly back to the upright position?

Of course the problem could be simpler than that, I can't draw very well, despite a very clear image of what I want in my head. Anyone want the .xcf files to give me a hand?

Don't get me wrong Turin, I definitely appreciate the feedback =]
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Post by turin » December 9th, 2004, 10:58 pm

when you stab, the force of the spear moving forward surpasses that of gravity. that, plus wind, tends to make the flag basically wrap around the spear, and not fall to the ground. it falls to the ground AFTER he has stopped the forward motion of the spear. hope that makes sense. ;)


your attack2 would be GREAT for the frame after he starts withdrawing his spear, though.


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ok, i downloaded one of the images. ;)

what suprised me most is how transparent it is... that amount of transparency will probably make it take on the color of the terrain it is in. i didn't notice before because the forum has a white background.

so yeah, give me the .xcf and i'll see if i can show what i mean.
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Post by Breeblebox » December 10th, 2004, 1:23 am

Here ya go...
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Post by turin » December 10th, 2004, 2:20 am

thanks... i'll see what i can do.


do you mind if i make the files opaque? it will make them fit in better in wesnoth.
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Post by Breeblebox » December 10th, 2004, 2:32 am

no problem, I think the only transparent parts should be shadows and aliasing although I could have painted a few parts with the opacity too low.
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Post by turin » December 10th, 2004, 4:05 am

here's the basic idea of what i mean. I only spent about 5 minutes on it, though, since i have to go to sleep now. :)
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Post by quartex » December 16th, 2004, 3:06 am

turin wrote:here's the basic idea of what i mean. I only spent about 5 minutes on it, though, since i have to go to sleep now. :)
I thought the artwork on the goblin rouser was going really well. When you have time, turin, I'd love to see a more polished version of the attack frame.

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Post by turin » December 16th, 2004, 1:12 pm

quartex wrote:
turin wrote:here's the basic idea of what i mean. I only spent about 5 minutes on it, though, since i have to go to sleep now. :)
I thought the artwork on the goblin rouser was going really well. When you have time, turin, I'd love to see a more polished version of the attack frame.
I will indeed attempt that. Probably this afternoon, or on saturday...
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Post by Breeblebox » December 20th, 2004, 9:59 pm

Yo Turin, any chance of getting that frame you mocked up as an .xcf, I'm quite keen to get this guy polished off. This second attack frame plus the leadership animation should about do it.

BTW: I may have asked this before, but can leadership have more than one frame?
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Post by Invisible Philosopher » December 20th, 2004, 10:11 pm

Breeblebox wrote:BTW: I may have asked this before, but can leadership have more than one frame?
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Post by turin » December 20th, 2004, 10:20 pm

Breeblebox wrote:Yo Turin, any chance of getting that frame you mocked up as an .xcf, I'm quite keen to get this guy polished off. This second attack frame plus the leadership animation should about do it.

BTW: I may have asked this before, but can leadership have more than one frame?
I... um... appear to have deleted it. Sorry... hopefully you can understand what i was trying to do and make your own edit.
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Post by Breeblebox » January 10th, 2005, 11:59 pm

OK, finally I got around to doing the last frame. Here is a look at all the frames side by side, and a zip of the pngs/ cfg

I went with Turin's attack2 frame. Suggestions, queries, comments or theories?
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