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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Thanks, I do have lots of free time right now. :)

I'll see to the spear swing, but for now, here's the current ones archived. (you would think photoshop would have a function to save each frame in the animation window as a png, but nooo, have to do each one manually) Nope, sorry no WML. I'm checking out the animation wiki right now though. :)

OK, I put in your changes on the tail. thanks
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Ambusher Bobbing. I made a small edit to the baseframe adding some missing shadow. Both baseframes are in their respective archive.

EDIT: Flanker NE baseframe.

...Edit again. Spines mucho improved.
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Aaand some attack frames... Took a little longer than i thought. I redid the attack frames from scratch as i didn't like the way he switched hand positions on the spear.
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Looking very good, but the motion blur isn't quite like the new spear animations. I guess it's up to you and Jet which one you go for. That aside, you're doing a fantastic job :)
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Believe it or not I actually based the motion blur on the drake thrashers, though a little toned down. Not sure why you think it's different, maybe because of the speed :o . Yeah we'll see what Jetrel says. And thanks. :)
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Hmm... it might be because it doesn't it doesn't splash out quite as much as some of the other ones.
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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I think I fixed all the mentioned issues with the run animation now... looks much better. :)

I tried making the augur's bob animation more subtle than the skirmisher line. I think of the skirmishers as very energetic while a spellcaster should have more reserved movements. I don't know about you but I think it might get annoying if every unit in the future wesnoth bounces around as much as the skirmishers. And that's saying something, I mean, they only move around a couple of pixel's so It's going to be a little hard getting good subtle bobs. Had to do lots of subpixel movement in the augur one.

Oh yeah had to do minuscule alterations on the augur baseframe to allow for the animation.
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I've been enjoying these new animations a lot.
There's one thing that bothers me about the augur's bob however. While the bottom of the staff is clearly rotating, the top does not change orientation at all, it slides. I've added a centreline to your animation to illustrate.
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Hmm it wasn't really my intention for it to rotate. Just wiggle back and forth. Well I did as you said anyway I think. Is this what you meant?

Here's the NE attack anyway, N to go, then throw...
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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I meant that the angle the staff makes with the ground changes (since the bottom does not move but the top does) but the orientation of the top of the staff remains vertical, which makes it look like the staff bends. I was thinking of something more like this, though the perceived angle is somewhat off in this too.
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congratulations for your work! continue with this quality!
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Sleepwalker wrote:Believe it or not I actually based the motion blur on the drake thrashers, though a little toned down. Not sure why you think it's different, maybe because of the speed :o . Yeah we'll see what Jetrel says. And thanks. :)
Looks fine to me.
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Jetrel wrote:Looks fine to me.
What about the run animation? does it look good in game. Should I shade it?

Alarantalara: Oh, I'm not sure that that small an angle could be done at this pixellated scale. Not convincingly anyway. I'd rather keep it as it is unless someone else objects. Did some other edits anyway, for better or worse I'm not sure. North attack is done anyway.

rhyging5: Thanks I'll try. :)
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Okay. Here's the code to do the animations - just paste this into your file at ~/data/core/units/saurians/Skirmisher.cfg at line 40 or so to see it in game.
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My immediate reaction is that the engine moves the unit way, way too fast. Specifically, the speed should be about 65% of the current speed. I have no qualms with dictating that we globally slow that down - if people don't like it, that's why we have quite a few variants of "accelerated speed". But we absolutely need good defaults for the people who DO care about the art being presented well.

We've got two camps; those who want nice presentation, and those who want the game to progress as fast as possible. We already serve the second just fine, because they can basically just turn of all animation in the game, but we need to ensure we're not shortchanging the former.


To preview stuff in game and not have it look horrendous, set the "accelerated speed", which is also able to decelerate, to either 50% or 75%, those respectively being "a little too slow/fast", but both closer than 100%. Obviously this "accelerated speed" thing screws with all the other animations, so it's not a long-term solution, but it's fine for testing.


As for the actual content of the animation itself: it looks pretty close to 'solid'. I should note that shadows go a long way towards judging this, so I'm not 100% yet, but I think it's fairly good.

The NE animation looks fine.
The SE animation *might* be leaning a little ways to the east - I might suggest moving the "footfalls" a pixel or so to our right, without shifting the rest of the unit, to try and tweak that. I'm not sure about this, this is just a hunch, but the only way to know is to tweak that.

:eng: Overall, though I'm extremely impressed with this! You're almost doing many of these perfectly on your first try.
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Re: Saurian Animation Commission WIP

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Hell, here's a file with the standing animations as well.

Note - please duplicate the base frame as part of the numbered sequence of images in the "bob" animation, when you post archives of the animations.

As part of the move to animated standing frames, we're moving away from having regular base frames - the "base frame" is really just going to be a frame from the bob animation flagged in the WML.

Like so:

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[unit_type]
    id=Saurian Skirmisher
    name= _ "Saurian Skirmisher"
    race=lizard
    image="units/saurians/skirmisher-se-bob1.png"
    ellipse="misc/ellipse"
Here is a file of the entire unit, with both the bob and run animations in it. You'll need to change those bob frame names to accommodate it.
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I'm also starting to think 75% speed might be acceptable. Hard to say.

We also need a slight tweak to the algorithm that decides facing. If a unit is running on a general SW facing for most of his animation, he should not momentarily flip E during the segment where he runs directly S.
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