Loyalist Portrait Series

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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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LordBob wrote:I'm also posting a rough of the halberdier for a check of the pose and proportions. Next step will see the linework cleaned.
Great work so far LordBob! :)

To me it seems like the Halberdier is cowering, because he is afraid of something. Like he sees a huge dragon in front of him and suddenly feels very small. :P
I don't know if what I see is real or not, but it's something to think about. And the lighting/coloring might fix it anyway. :)
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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deserter wrote:To me it seems like the Halberdier is cowering, because he is afraid of something. Like he sees a huge dragon in front of him and suddenly feels very small. I don't know if what I see is real or not, but it's something to think about. And the lighting/coloring might fix it anyway.
:hmm: I think this might be a matter of perception given the lack of coloring as you mentioned, as it seems to me that he is in the process of readying himself for attack. The head is focused forward and the halberd is up, ready to be used.
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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I'll keep that in mind when inking, posture is important and can change a lot with just a few lines.

Meanwhile, WIP of the pikeman. I finally changed his helm, but I'm not completely happy with the result. Maybe with a larger neck cover ?
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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I may be in the minority, but I liked the other helm, even though it doesn't quite match the sprite. The main impression I always got out of the helmet on the sprite is "pointy", which the other one was. I point it out just to let you know that not everybody disapproved of the last one.
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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beetlenaut wrote:I liked the other helm
me too.

This new helmet looks to heavy and doesn't match the over all look , imho.
The rest of his armour is quite light weight. Why should he need a helmet that limits his view that much?
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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I looks like you're not in the minority, beetlenaut. I preferred the other one as well. I liked to see his face. Especially as this one just makes me think 'Robocop'...

I look forward top seeing the finished version =)
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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Wow The Armor look good es Allways!
And about the Helm, I Dont like the Oldone, But The Sallet is not so good for the pikeman.
It looks Awsome on the Head of the Hellebardier.
you should better take one of the Kattle hats i post.
But its your choice, i dont want to give commands to anyone here. Because an Artist need his freedome.
Do that wath you think, is the best for the sprite Lord Bob, i think you know wath you are doing.
Schaller or Sallets look better on Heavy Armor.
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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thespaceinvader wrote:Especially as this one just makes me think 'Robocop'...
The other one made me think 'Hershey Kisses' haha

I do prefer the second one though. Now that TSI mentions it, it does remind me of Robocop. But it doesn't bother me. In my opinion (and I know nothing about medieval armor), the first helmet looked too ceremonial, not really functional..
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I happen to like the new sallet, at least.
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hyperactivething wrote:the first helmet looked too ceremonial, not really functional..
imho, it's not only the helmet. It's also his cloth and armour that look ceremonical. That's why I think the first helmet matches at least better. I think it's ok that it looks a bit ceremonical, specially on this unit
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I cannot longer hold me off:

You are doing a fantastic job MyLord (Bob)!!
Your unique unit portraits, will form the loyalist to the coolest faction to play. Although I play only the loyalists anyway, it will be much more fun to play with them and enjoy the dashing portraits. I can't wait to have them all in the game.

Both thumbs up and keep it up!
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Pipeman (and every other person who, at some time, posted their appreciation): you're welcome ! I can't express how much I'm pleased to be able to post my art where it can be useful, not to mention how interesting working on an entire series of portraits can prove.

Lord.Bedham: while good-looking, the Kettle hats are pretty similar to the helmet of the swordsman. I wish to keep them different

Anyone not liking the new hat: go to the place of a thousand torments, you Infidels ! :P :P :P
...To be honest, I'm not pleased with either design, so I'll be toying some more with the hat. Here's a first attempt, tell me what you think of it.

I also made a very quick and very dirty job of shading the studs so that you see the whole armour. Several among you mentionned it looks ceremonial, so I'd like to know what makes you feel that way - that ceremonial bit wasn't intended, I'll change it if I can
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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the longer halberd really looks classy!

regarding the helmet i have to confess that i still like the simple very first version the best... this one doesn't look really balanced. is the shading of the cloth finished or preliminary?

otherwise, good job, as always! :D
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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At first - The ceremonial look:
I think the prime reason are the combined armour types; plate on brigantine. Particularly your brigantine looks quite noble. Not like an practical piece of armour from an ordinary footman. Keeping it in a more dirty and battered look and natural colours, maybe light brown, or grimy white, could solve this "ambiguity".

Second - The helmet:
A kettle hat would match with the sprite perfectly. I like the one that Lord.Beham had posted very much:

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Form the top more pointy and it would be up with the sprite and - so I think - it will look very stylish, too. Maybe you try it and whe wait for the response.


Please say me LordBob: What program do you use for these masterpieces? And how do you start with your portraits? Hand drawn sketches?
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Re: Loyalist Portrait Series

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Hmm, i take back wath i said about :
""Do that wath you think, is the best for the sprite Lord Bob, i think you know wath you are doing.""

This Helm so not wath i expectet. You said you want to make them Different, that good. But why this strong difference between the Swordsman ? The Helm of the sprite is Simular, and thay are Both lvl 2 units.
So why dont you make little differences. The body Armor look already Awsome and so diverse.
So you coult just take one of the Kattlehats. Like me and Pipeman said. I want you to take this Helm to like Pipeman choose. And there are Differenses:
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I know you reedone this 2 times and you are going to be angry about it, but i think THIS would be the Best for the sprite. :)
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