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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby Boucman » April 21st, 2010, 9:42 pm

reminder of previous experiences (not for you jet, since you already know that, but in case some other artists want to give it a try)

try to get units to run rather than walk as much as possible, running has a jump phase that wlaking doesnt have, and synchronizing wlk with sliding speed is very hard and usually doesn't looks good
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby Redeth » April 21st, 2010, 10:22 pm

FWIW, I find it interesting, worthy of being studied in my secret sprite lab :hmm: Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby Jetrel » May 26th, 2010, 9:57 am

Here's a block+some finishing of the horseman attack. Should (finally) be fairly straightforward to finish him and his line off, except for the business of making a sword attack.

I'm not sure if this needs another inbetween frame or two (it's currently 6 frames), but I'll probably decide after seeing it in game. This demo is a first for me, given the nature of the unit - it's a demo where I've made the sprite actually translate its position like it would in-game. I needed to do that because without it, I was having trouble getting stuff right.



(Actually, right now, I'm thinking I need to make the windup even more dramatic, and also have one more frame of the horse "skidding into" the moment-of-contact during the attack. That and maybe actual "steps" during the recover, depending on if I actually have temporal room for them.
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby thespaceinvader » May 26th, 2010, 10:29 am

Something bothers me slightly about the way the horse's head moves - i can't find a good video right now, but I have a feeling they tend to pull the head down rather than stretching it out when the attack hits. And you didn't mention it, but i'm sure you will do - a lot more movement through the shoulders.

That being said, I'm a little nervy about including quite so much weapon blur, especially on the butt end of the spear - the timing will have to be good to ensure that it looks like he's thrusting rather than striking with the spear.

Otherwise, it's looking good. Regarding the base frame, however, i wonder if some brighter highlights aren't needed on his breastplate - it could look a little more metallic.
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby Jetrel » May 26th, 2010, 11:07 pm

thespaceinvader wrote:Something bothers me slightly about the way the horse's head moves - i can't find a good video right now, but I have a feeling they tend to pull the head down rather than stretching it out when the attack hits.


Right you are. I was feeling something wasn't right there.

thespaceinvader wrote:And you didn't mention it, but i'm sure you will do - a lot more movement through the shoulders.


Of the human as he strikes?

thespaceinvader wrote:That being said, I'm a little nervy about including quite so much weapon blur, especially on the butt end of the spear - the timing will have to be good to ensure that it looks like he's thrusting rather than striking with the spear.


Timing isn't a worry, since we have iron-grip control over that thanks to boucman. Whether the motion-blur (of the spin) in general is a good thing remains to be seen, but I'm hopeful.
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby thespaceinvader » May 27th, 2010, 6:33 am

Yeah, through the human's shoulders - it's a rule of perception thing, since I don't think a normal jouster or lancer would actually move his shoulders much if at all when he strikes (if anything, slightly backwards as he takes the impact), but the lance is going to be thrusting forward relative to the horse somewhat, (since there isn't much distance to lend impact, and the horse stops and goes back to the rest position after the strike), which needs to be reflected in the shoulders of the horseman.
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby Sleepwalker » June 23rd, 2010, 3:48 pm

TSI's probably right. As he lowers his lance I'd move his lance arm shoulder back a bit and his other shoulder forward. Then reverse them as he strikes and lean him over a bit. "shrug" I guess you will have to find a compromise between making it look like a charge and a normal spear thrust.

About the run, When you continue with this I would suggest that you make the main body move around a bit more. And perhaps make the rider bounce up and down in the saddle. To make the movement well readable in game.
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Re: Animation Upgrade Project

Postby Jetrel » June 24th, 2010, 6:01 am

Right. I am probably going to try finishing that, sooner or later. In fact I was just going to ask for your crits on this, so I'm glad you preempted me.
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