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Postby Jetrel » April 12th, 2008, 1:43 am

This is a list of our progress on finishing all the unit portraits in the game. These are color coded according to completion. Because a unit's level, and experience tree is very relevant to the making of portraits, I've indicated the number of levels a unit has with an equal number of dashes in front of the unit. I have also separated discontiguous trees with spaces.

A +o after a unit indicates that the unit also needs a female variation. All units that have female permutations need a female portrait. (This mark isn't put on units that are always female.)

Red indicates a unit which has no portrait.
Maroon indicates a unit which is very similar to some other member of its tree, and which doesn't have an especially strong need for a unique portrait (consider the difference between the Footpad -> Outlaw transition, and the Outlaw -> Fugitive transition; the latter is much more dramatic of a change).
Green indicates a unit which is done.
Orange indicates a unit which will be done in the course of WSAS 2009.


EDIT: updated 19th october 09




Drakes
-Drake Burner
--Fire Drake
---Inferno Drake
--Drake Flare
---Drake Flameheart


-Drake Clasher
--Drake Gladiator
---Drake Enforcer
--Drake Slasher
---Drake Warden


-Drake Glider
--Sky Drake
---Hurricane Drake


-Drake Fighter
--Drake Warrior
---Drake Blademaster



Saurians
-Saurian Skirmisher
--Saurian Ambusher
---Saurian Flanker


-Saurian Augur
--Saurian Soothsayer
--Saurian Oracle



Wood Elves
-Elvish Archer +o
--Elvish Ranger +o

---Elvish Avenger +o
--Elvish Marksman +o
---Elvish Sharpshooter +o

-Elvish Fighter
--Elvish Captain

---Elvish Marshal
--Elvish Hero
---Elvish Champion


-Elvish Scout
--Elvish Rider
---Elvish Outrider


-Elvish Shaman
--Elvish Druid
---Elvish Shyde
--Elvish Sorceress

---Elvish Enchantress
----Elvish Sylph

---Lady

--Lord
---High Lord
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Jetrel » April 12th, 2008, 1:56 am

Humans (Outlaws)
Ruffian
-Footpad
-Footpad+o
--Outlaw+o
--Outlaw

---Fugitive
---Fugitive+o

-Thug
--Bandit
---Highwayman


-Poacher
--Trapper
---Huntsman
---Ranger


-Thief
-Thief+o
--Rogue
--Rogue+o

---Assassin
---Assassin+o



Ogres
-Young Ogre
--Ogre


Goblins
Goblin Spearman
-Goblin Impaler
-Goblin Rouser


-Wolf Rider
--Goblin Pillager

--Goblin Knight
---Direwolf Rider



Dwarves
-Dwarvish Fighter
--Dwarvish Steelclad
---Dwarvish Lord

-Dwarvish Guardsman
--Dwarvish Stalwart
---Dwarvish Sentinel

---Dwarvish Runemaster

-Dwarvish Thunderer
--Dwarvish Thunderguard
---Dwarvish Dragonguard

-Dwarvish Ulfserker
--Dwarvish Berserker

-Gryphon Rider (portrait will be getting replaced with a unique gryphon eventually
--Gryphon Master
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Jetrel » April 12th, 2008, 2:11 am

Orcs:
-Orcish Archer
--Orcish Crossbowman
---Orcish Slurbow


-Orcish Assassin
--Orcish Slayer


-Orcish Grunt
--Orcish Warrior
---Orcish Warlord


-Orcish Leader
--Orcish Ruler
---Orcish Sovereign



Trolls:
-Troll Whelp
--Troll Rocklobber
--Troll
---Troll Warrior
--Troll Hero
---Great Troll



Undead
-Dark Adept +o
--Dark Sorcerer +o
---Necromancer +o
---Lich
----Ancient Lich

---Death Knight


-Ghost
--Wraith
---Spectre
--Shadow
---Nightgaunt


-Ghoul
--Necrophage

-Skeleton
--Revenant

---Draug
--Deathblade


-Skeleton Archer
--Bone Shooter
---Soul Shooter


Vampire Bat
-Blood Bat
--Dread Bat


Walking Corpse
-Soulless
-> I have no idea how to reconcile all the different variations of this unit; though I'll note that it's a VERY low priority to make any of them, if we choose to at all.

Wose:
-Wose
--Elder Wose
---Ancient Wose
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Jetrel » April 12th, 2008, 2:28 am

Humans (Loyalist)
-Cavalryman
--Dragoon
---Cavalier

-Fencer
--Duelist
---Master-at-Arms


-Heavy Infantry
--Shock Trooper
---Iron Mauler


-Horseman
--Lancer
--Knight
---Grand Knight
---Paladin


-Mage +o
--White Mage +o
---Mage of Light +o
--Red Mage +o
---Silver Mage +o
---Arch Mage +o
----Great Mage +o


Peasant
-Spearman
--Swordsman
---Royal Guard
--Pikeman
---Halberdier
--Javelineer


Woodsman
-Bowman
--Longbowman
---Master Bowman


-Sergeant
--Lieutenant
---General
----Grand Marshal



Mermen
-Merman Fighter
--Merman Warrior
---Merman Hoplite
---Merman Triton


-Mermaid Initiate
--Mermaid Priestess

---Mermaid Diviner
--Mermaid Enchantress
---Mermaid Siren


-Merman Hunter
--Merman Spearman

---Merman Javelineer
--Merman Netcaster
---Merman Entangler


Naga
-Naga Fighter
--Naga Warrior
---Naga Myrmidon

Monsters
(Most monsters don't strictly need portraits, but we'll take any good ones that are made.)
---Giant Spider
--Cuttle Fish
-----Fire Dragon
-Giant Scorpion
Mudcrawler
-Giant Mudcrawler
---Sea Serpent
-Wolf
----Yeti
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Jetrel » April 12th, 2008, 2:31 am

Note: the above is not "gospel writ" on our current state of portraits - for one thing, the use of maroon is rather arbitrary. This exists primarily as just a notepad to let us keep track of where things are.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby kitty » April 12th, 2008, 5:09 pm

i spent some time thinking on our project too and tried to get an overview how much work it will be. :shock:

as i count we would want 193 portraits (of which are 76 done, which leaves 117) in a perfect world with as many artists as we would like.
if we let the units share portraits as i suggest here it would still be 135 (of which still are 76 done, which leaves only 59.


Drakes

1. Drake Burner/Fire Drake/Inferno Drake/Drake Flare/Drake Flameheart
2. Drake Clasher/Gladiator/Enforcer
3. Drake Slasher/Warden
4. Drake Glider/Sky Drake/Hurricane Drake
5. Drake Fighter/Warrior/Blademaster



Saurians

6. Saurian Skirmisher/Ambusher/Flanker
7. Saurian Augur/Soothsayer/Oracle



Wood Elves

8. Elvish Archer
9. Elvish Archer +o
10. Elvish Ranger/Avenger
11. Elvish Ranger/Avenger+o
12. Elvish Marksman/ Sharpshooter
13. Elvish Marksman/ Sharpshooter +o
14. Elvish Fighter
15. Elvish Captain/Marshall
16. Elvish Hero/Elvish Champion
17. Elvish Scout/Rider/Outrider
18. Elvish Shaman
19. Elvish Druid
20. Elvish Shyde
21. Elvish Sorceress/Enchantress
22. Elvish Sylph
23. Lady
24. Lord
25. High Lord



Humans (Outlaws)


26. Ruffian
27. Footpad
28. Foodpad +o
29. Outlaw/Fugitive
30. Outlaw/Fugitive +o
31. Thug
32. Bandit/Highwayman
33. Poacher/Trapper
34. Huntsman
35. Ranger
36. Thief/Rogue +o
37. Thief/Rogue
38. Assassin +o
39. Assassin



Ogres

40. Young Ogre/Ogre


Goblins

41. Goblin Spearman
42. Goblin Impaler
43. Goblin Rouser
44. Wolf Rider
45. Goblin Pillager
46. Goblin Knight/Direwolf Rider



Dwarves

47. Dwarvish Fighter
48. Dwarvish Steelclad/Dwarvish Lord
49. Dwarvish Guardsman/Stalwart
50. Sentinel
51. Dwarvish Runemaster
52. Dwarvish Thunderer/Thunderguard
53. Dragonguard
54. Dwarvish Ulfserker/Dwarvish Berserker
55. Gryphon Rider/Gryphon Master


Orcs

56. Orcish Archer
57. Orcish Crossbowman/Orcish Slurbow
58. Orcish Assassin/Orcish Slayer
59. Orcish Grunt
60. Orcish Warrior
61. Orcish Warlord
62. Orcish Leader/Orcish Ruler/Orcish Sovereign



Trolls

63. Troll Whelp
64. Troll Rocklobber
65. Troll/Troll Warrior
66. Troll Hero/Great Troll



Undead

67. Dark Adept
68. Dark Adept +o
69. Dark Sorcerer/Necromancer
70. Dark Sorcerer/Necromancer +o
71. Lich

72. Ancient Lich
73. Death Knight
74. Ghost

75. Wraith
76. Spectre
77. Shadow
78. Nightgaunt
79. Ghoul/Necrophage
80. Skeleton
81. Revenant/Draug
82. Deathblade
83. Skeleton Archer/Bone Shooter
84. Soul Shooter
85. Vampire Bat/Blood Bat/ Dread Bat



Wose

86. Wose
87. Elder Wose/Ancient Wose


Humans (Loyalist)

88. Cavalryman
89. Dragoon/Cavalier
90. Fencer/Duelist
91. Master-at-Arms
92. Heavy Infantry/Shock Trooper
93. Iron Mauler
94. Horseman
95. Lancer
96. Knight/Grand Knight
97. Paladin
98. Mage
99. Mage +o
100. White Mage
101. White Mage +o
102. Mage of Light
103. Mage of Light +o
104. Red Mage
105. Red Mage +o
106. Silver Mage
107. Silver Mage +o
108. Arch Mage/Great Mage
109. Arch Mage/Great Mage +o
110. Peasant
111. Spearman
112. Swordsman
113. Royal Guard
114. Pikeman
115. Halberdier
116. Javelineer
117. Woodsman
118. Bowman
119. Longbowman
120. Master Bowman
121. Sergeant
122. Lieutenant
123. General
124. Grand Marshal


Mermen

125. Merman Fighter/Merman Warrior
126. Merman Hoplite
127. Merman Triton
128. Mermaid Initiate
129. Mermaid Priestess / Mermaid Diviner
130. Mermaid Enchantress/Mermaid Siren
131. Merman Hunter
132. Merman Spearman/Merman Javelineer
133. Merman Netcaster/Merman Entangler



Naga

134. Naga Fighter/Warrior
135. Myrmidon


Monsters
(Most monsters don't strictly need portraits, but we'll take any good ones that are made.)
136. Spider / Giant Spider
137. Cuttle Fish
138. Fire Dragon
139. Giant Scorpion
140. Yeti
141. Wolf / Great Wolf / Dire Wolf

142. Mudcrawler / Giant Mudcrawler
143. Sea Serpent



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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Sgt. Groovy » April 12th, 2008, 8:57 pm

(if we get 7 done in a month (4 be me and 3 by anybody else) we would be done in a year!


One way to crank up productivity without compromising the stylistic consistency would be to divide the workload like they do in comic industry: Have different people doing the sketching, inking and colouring parts. The latter phases mostly dictate the look of the picture, so if that would be done only by people who are cabable of similar enough style, the efforts of other people could still be harnessed for doing the sketching.

The problem is that since people are doing the art mostly for artistic satisfaction, there might not be enough motivation for the latter stages.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby zookeeper » April 13th, 2008, 7:06 am

Since we have no list of campaign portraits that need doing, should it go in this thread or a new one if someone compiles one?
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Jetrel » April 13th, 2008, 9:26 am

zookeeper wrote:Since we have no list of campaign portraits that need doing, should it go in this thread or a new one if someone compiles one?


Make that a different thread. And thanks for asking.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Jetrel » July 18th, 2010, 12:24 am

Here's the current list of which campaigns need portrait art:
AOI - done.
DW - done by kitty and JustinO
DM - wose portrait still missing, tentatively reserved by Lordbob. Needs new Portrait of old delfador, which will be the same one as HttT's
DiD - done by LordBob.
TEI - done by LordBob.
HttT - needs replacement, is being worked on by Kitty.
LoW - done by Kitty.
Liberty - done by Kitty
NR - needs replacement, is being worked on by Valkier
SoF - done by LordBob
SotBE - needs replacement.
THoT - has a few portraits that still need replacement, is being slowly done by DUHH, and I do expect he'll finish the set. Eventually.
TRoW - done by LordBob.
TSG - done by Kitty.
TB - done by Kitty.
UTBS - Lordbob/kitty discussed this in the story art thread. Needs replacement.

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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby thespaceinvader » July 18th, 2010, 6:12 am

I just updated the colours on kitty's post. The long and short of it is that things which need doing are:

Ancient lich (valkier has expressed an interest in doing a generic)
Wraith (I have a sketch I'd love to see used, if I can match kitty's style, by an artist whose name I forget)
Wose (noone yet. The Elder/Ancient could also use a shading update on the leaves when I have improved enough to make it worthwhile)
Troll Rocklobber, Warrior, Hero, Great Troll and Shaman are all lacking and AFAIK unclaimed.
Drake Enforcer and Warden (these are highest priority on my list)
Various monsters.

We always have room for alternates of sufficient quality, and for filling in gaps where we have two units using the same portrait, however.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby LordBob » January 4th, 2011, 10:43 pm

Further update, this time the colours in Jetrel's campaign list above.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby thespaceinvader » January 5th, 2011, 7:59 am

Updated my post too - I'm glad to be at a point now where it's far, far easier to list what's left rather than what's done.

The Ancient Lich is something of a special case, given that I think the future will be a custom sprite and portrait for each campaign AL, and a default AL with its own portrait too. This is probably something to give more thought to before anyone does anything precipitate on this point.

But we're so close to finishing the generics, I can TASTE it.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby Alarantalara » July 26th, 2012, 1:43 am

Removed portrait ban for Under the Burning Suns. The heroes are individual enough that no matter what happens to the rest of the units they can be done, and there's no reason the portraits can't set the standard for the sprites instead of the other way around.
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Re: Grand Portrait List

Postby LordBob » September 26th, 2012, 9:09 am

I updated both the generic portrait list and campaign list ; altogether, I'm thrilled that we're really down to a few. Here goes, unless I'm mistaken:

- Generic-wise, it's still the Ancient Lich and Wraith, plus 6 monsters. We should also clarify what we do with the Elder Wose/Ancient Wose : do we use a single portrait for the whole line now that we have a replacement for the Wose ?

- Campaign-wise, big projects that are left are UtBS and SotBE. Plus some work left on HttT, NR, and tHoT which have been dragging on. I am also unclear on wether we still need a specific portrait for the wose in Delfador's Memoirs.
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