Proper Flying Mod
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Hammerfritz
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Proper Flying Mod
Greetings, fellow Wesnothians!
I found the time to write another mod, that being the "Proper Flying Mod".
It tries to make certain units feel more like they are actually flying, even in combat: With this mod enabled, several mainline units are unattackable in melee by ground units, and receive something like the skirmisher ability. In return, they become outstandingly bad at holding points of interest (villages, castles, keeps, mountains) by having their inattackability removed on such hexes and losing their zone of control.
So far I have nothing on my mind to be added to the mod, however I might update it as soon as I have gathered some data on balancing. Feedback is therefore, and of course, highly welcome!
EDIT: I updated to version 1.1.0, fixing the issue of AI trying to (rather unsuccessfully) attack fliers with melee ground units and changed defense penalties of fliers on certain terrains to them not having a zone of control under any circumstances. Level 0 fliers still receive defense penalties instead.
I found the time to write another mod, that being the "Proper Flying Mod".
It tries to make certain units feel more like they are actually flying, even in combat: With this mod enabled, several mainline units are unattackable in melee by ground units, and receive something like the skirmisher ability. In return, they become outstandingly bad at holding points of interest (villages, castles, keeps, mountains) by having their inattackability removed on such hexes and losing their zone of control.
So far I have nothing on my mind to be added to the mod, however I might update it as soon as I have gathered some data on balancing. Feedback is therefore, and of course, highly welcome!
EDIT: I updated to version 1.1.0, fixing the issue of AI trying to (rather unsuccessfully) attack fliers with melee ground units and changed defense penalties of fliers on certain terrains to them not having a zone of control under any circumstances. Level 0 fliers still receive defense penalties instead.
Last edited by Hammerfritz on April 4th, 2017, 7:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Proper Flying Mod
What about units with submerge ability in deep water then? 
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Hammerfritz
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Re: Proper Flying Mod
Oh! Thanks for those quick replies (and approval, if applicable)!
Yeah, what about them?
No seriously now, on account of anybody still being able to attack them when they are detected? Always wondered why their defense was still so low Or just because I wrote ground unit?
Also, dear Eagle_11, if you encounter a ghoul poisoning a flier, that was probably still possible a few hours ago. But now I updated. Now it takes a magical ghoul (why does this sound like a genre of anime?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8vaFl6 ... tu.be&t=54Sapient wrote:What about units with submerge ability in deep water then?
Yeah, what about them?
No seriously now, on account of anybody still being able to attack them when they are detected? Always wondered why their defense was still so low Or just because I wrote ground unit?Also, dear Eagle_11, if you encounter a ghoul poisoning a flier, that was probably still possible a few hours ago. But now I updated. Now it takes a magical ghoul (why does this sound like a genre of anime?)
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Can-ned_Food
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Re: Proper Flying Mod
Maybe the submerged troop swims to the top of the deep water and is watched as it descends again.
Actually, that's an question: why can't merfolk be able to perceive submerged troops?
As for the flying, I think it would work better if the flier had superposition — i.e. a second map overtop the one with the terrain tiles.
There are some silly ways this could be done, but it would probably be best as a mod to the engine.
Actually, that's an question: why can't merfolk be able to perceive submerged troops?
As for the flying, I think it would work better if the flier had superposition — i.e. a second map overtop the one with the terrain tiles.
There are some silly ways this could be done, but it would probably be best as a mod to the engine.
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ForestDragon
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Re: Proper Flying Mod
Can flying units (in your mod) attack other flying units in melee? if they can't, them you should make them able to.
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Creator of Tale of Alan (1.12 abandoned),The Golden Age (1.12/1.13, abandoned),XP Bank (1.14),Alliances Mod(1.14), with a large add-on in development
"Real life is like a hyper-realistic VR game, but with permadeath and boring gameplay"
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Hammerfritz
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Re: Proper Flying Mod
That'd be cool to see, but I fear this and all the changes to the game it would imply are currently above my skills to do...Can-ned_Food wrote:As for the flying, I think it would work better if the flier had superposition — i.e. a second map overtop the one with the terrain tiles.
There are some silly ways this could be done, but it would probably be best as a mod to the engine.
And yeah, flying units can engage other fliers without restriction.ForestDragon wrote:Can flying units (in your mod) attack other flying units in melee? if they can't, them you should make them able to.
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Re: Proper Flying Mod
There is an error with the Image Path Function used for the add-on's icon:
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20180817 22:35:28 error general: Mismatched parenthesis:
~BLIT(units/human-outlaws/thief-defend-1-2.png~RC(magenta>blue)~CROP(12,0,0,0)~BLIT(units/dunefolk/falcon.png~RC(magenta>white)~FL(horizontal)~CROP(0,8,60,40)
20180817 22:35:28 error general: Mismatched parenthesis:
BLIT(units/human-outlaws/thief-defend-1-2.png~RC(magenta>blue)~CROP(12,0,0,0)~BLIT(units/dunefolk/falcon.png~RC(magenta>white)~FL(horizontal)~CROP(0,8,60,40)
20180817 22:35:28 error general: Mismatched parenthesis:
units/human-outlaws/thief-defend-1-2.png~RC(magenta>blue)~CROP(12,0,0,0)~BLIT(units/dunefolk/falcon.png~RC(magenta>white)~FL(horizontal)~CROP(0,8,60,40)
20180817 22:35:28 error general: Mismatched parenthesis:
~RC(magenta>blue)~CROP(12,0,0,0)~BLIT(units/dunefolk/falcon.png~RC(magenta>white)~FL(horizontal)~CROP(0,8,60,40)
20180817 22:35:28 error general: Mismatched parenthesis:
BLIT(units/dunefolk/falcon.png~RC(magenta>white)~FL(horizontal)~CROP(0,8,60,40)