Siege Wars - New Construction Era!

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Re: Siege Wars - New Construction Era!

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oh and bob please can you make it so the opposing team does not hear if your village Riots,etc?

one more thing- i think unrest should olso effect riot chance as otherwise i can have a ton of villages, build a town hall and put 200% tax rate and go on and tax since when i tax the village gives me double and most of the time its not going to rebel so i do that and get LOTS of gold.
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I found another small issue. Being that you can build outside maps. On hamlets all you need is a commander (bigger build range), then go with mouse to the tile 6.1, move it up a little and you can build a wall outside the map. Not of much use but you can also do it with monuments (and they do work).

During dawn and day horseman has a 16% chance to kill queen and lord with a single attack. If they have like 50 hitpoints and a 10% pierce resist they can survive.
lightdragonx wrote:oh and bob please can you make it so the opposing team does not hear if your village Riots,etc?
I think its a fun element to the game that you an hear there is a riot at the enemy town.
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The concept looks very nice, Bob. I think the Wall units probably look the worst, though. I had a suggestion: you can use standing animation filters to make the walls appear joined together.
You just need artwork for all the possible configurations, then I could help you with the WML.
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Sapient wrote:The concept looks very nice, Bob. I think the Wall units probably look the worst, though. I had a suggestion: you can use standing animation filters to make the walls appear joined together.
You just need artwork for all the possible configurations, then I could help you with the WML.
I agree, but perhaps count towers as parts of wall configurations (i.e. tower on a wall).
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Yes, and you should probably disallow people from placing Wall / Tower units on Castle terrain. Why? because it just looks weird.
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some ideas:
-Maybe you could include a university where you can research new technologies.
-Lighning hurts the unit.
-Lighning can be cast on units too (not just buildings).
-Poison (like lightning, just poisons the unit [not]race=building[/not] :D ).
-Upgrade 'multitraining'; a barracks can train 2 units a turn.
-Option to hire assasins

I'll post more if I can think of some.
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i love this when is the next version coming out?
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idanwin wrote:Maybe you could include a university where you can research new technologies.
I like this idea, perhaps technologies lead to upgrades in buildings. For example, you can only build wood walls/towers at first and must research stone walls/towers. The university could also have HP upgrades.
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Monuments seem to be bugged, when destroying them your unrest doesn't increase. I think Monuments should decrease unrest/turn, building hundreds of them because your enemy is propaganding all the time is just weird.
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maybe you should only allow one monument, but the ability to upgrade it.
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Sapient wrote:maybe you should only allow one monument, but the ability to upgrade it.
That's similar to what I suggested yesterday, but still allowing more than one monument.

Basically, monument -> great monument (or something else) -> wonder. Each time it's like buying a new monument, except it's cheaper than actually building one (and saves space). That way people will only have 2-3 at most, even on large maps and long games. One way it could work is great monument is 60g for -5 unrest added to the monument and wonder is 120g for an additional -10 unrest.
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The hard part is balancing propaganda and monuments against eachother. And having them counter eachother in a somewhat direct way where none of the players gets a real advantage is rather boring too. Perhaps propaganda could also influence riot chance in villages while building/upgrading your monument is a bit cheaper? Another idea I had for the monument is to make it more powerful when you put units in the tiles directly ascending to it.

Monument lvl 1:
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Monument lvl 2:
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Monument lvl 3 (optional illumination or delumination):
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(delumination image from era of strife)

Then it can be further upgraded by up to six units at the tiles ascending to it. And (optional) where the aura of light version (with "worshipers") helps lowering your unrest, the dark aura version of it would make unrest higher at an enemy player of your choice (with a switch toggle). The worshipers will need to be rather powerful because it takes quite a lot of orders to take them there, also lvl 2/3/4 units should give a worship power multiplied by their lvl.
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Release of Kingdoms 2vs2
Rival kingdoms go to war, players can obtain bonuses by raiding enemy outposts while defending their own.
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readme wrote:##-- Kingdoms Siege 2vs2 -##
- Two versus two player map by nataS for Siege Wars by Bob_The_Mighty
- Big thanks to Bob_The_Mighty for the great mod, and proving and helping me with the code.
- Also thanks to CIB, Aethaeryn, Sandermatt, Lord_Midnight, and others for helping me with playtesting.
- Compatible with and tested for Siege Wars 0.5
# Unpack files to:
- Windows: C:\Program Files\Wesnoth\userdata\data\campaigns\Siege_Wars\
- Linux: ~/.wesnoth/data/campaigns/Siege_Wars/
- Mac: ~/Library/Preferences/Wesnoth/data/campaigns/Siege_Wars/
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