Brotherhood of Light - Multiplayer RPG Scenario

[zookeeper]

Try etching an arrow.

[sreesreearul]

worked, thanks quite absurd it didn't work before may be i missed that despite going over it again and again.

[Konrad2]

can someone tell me where to get the "reanimate" spell?

[zookeeper]

can someone tell me where to get the "reanimate" spell?

Spoiler:

From a book in the library.

[H-Hour]

Hi guys, I'm mostly done with a playthrough and thought I'd leave some feedback/notes. I've enjoyed it quite a bit, but now I've sort of reached a point where I'm not sure what to do and a little tired of carting all my guys around the map looking for what I've missed. I'm sure I'll find it eventually.

Played on 1.10.6, localhost with myself as all 4.

Spoiler:

1. Extra word

2. Error with reanimate menu
Each time I opened the reanimate menu, it didn't remove the old list and just added duplicates to the current list. It also didn't update the stats (I think), so if player 1 had 3/40 mana the first time I opened the menu, he'd always be listed that way (in the original and all duplicates) regardless of whether his mana had changed. Because all my mages had the same name, this made it quite difficult trying to guess which one was the right mage. Finally got my fourth unpetrified though!

3. Flower message appeared twice
At this location, though another mage had already picked the flower, when my second mage went to the location the message appeared again. I did not notice this on any other locations, but it's possible I never went to any other location twice.

4. Well message timing
My memory is a little hazy on this one. But if I recall correctly, I had already pulled the guy out. But when another mage landed on the well later, the message still played where he said something like "didn't one of you [another mage] have a bucket with you?"

5. I didn't realize that the lieutenant himself needed to kill the thief in the west. I probably just wasn't playing close enough attention to the dialogue, but I went ahead and killed him with one of my mages and he got all depressed. Sad face lieutenant.

6. I was really excited to use the mercenaries, but in the end I was unable to. This was probably just my own fault, but I didn't realize they couldn't enter the cave, so this caused me a bit of headache. Here's what happened to me (purely for comic value):

I walked my whole crew (including a shock trooper!) over to the caves. I didn't have the incantation. So I teleported my mages back to the market and went north. Meanwhile, my mercenaries were walking back across the islands. When they got back to the market area, I had the incantation, so I walked them all the way back to the caves and teleported my mages there. I waited for the mercenaries to walk to the cave thinking this would be a difficult area. Once everyone was there, (probably a good 20 turns for that damn shock trooper), I did the incantation and realized they were useless. Hah. So now then I spent another 20 turns walking them back over, but that shock trooper just can't keep up so I walked him into some trolls and was relieved when he died.

7. I've looked at some spoilers here to find the elvish kingdom, but I really don't want to walk all the way back there. I'm probably more lazy than most players though.

8. I definitely agree with zookeeper's suggestion about removing some abilities from the mages to weaken them. I never really had much trouble at any stage of this so far except the southwest cave. And even that was only bad because it took me a long time to catch on to the petrify mechanic. I haven't reached the end scenario though so maybe its all just been building up to this last challenge.

All feedback is purely constructive. I really enjoyed the scenario, thanks! Though I may not finish it, that's purely because I don't fancy wandering around the map looking for the right triggers to reach the final stages. But that says more about my own play style (casual) than the scenario.

edit - Oh, I forgot one more thing

Spoiler:

9. Lighting range text

[Bob_The_Mighty]

Thanks for the detailed feedback. It's very useful. As it happens, I've just played it through myself and got a big list of changes to make (some of same things you noted). Sorry you had such a slog with the followers, I think they should be able to teleport in a similar way to the mages. I'm also planning to make it much harder. There will be a big update to come.

[H-Hour]

I think they should be able to teleport in a similar way to the mages.

+1 I didn't suggest it because I wasn't sure if it fit the story of the world you wanted. But from a gameplay perspective, this would be great.

[zookeeper]

I've uploaded 0.7.3 to the 1.10 add-on server. This contains fixes to H-Hour's items 1-4, 6 and 9.

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    Version 0.7.3

    - The teleport spell will now teleport other adjacent units on your side.
    - All units on a player's side can enter Glimero Caverns.
    - Various bug and typo fixes.

This might or might not be the last update to the 1.10 version; if anything noteworthy pops up before the final 1.12 release I can update it again, but all the new and flashy stuff will happen in the 1.12 version so I doubt we'll do much to the 1.10 version anymore.

[gnombat]

I'm running the latest version (0.7.3, BfW 1.10.7). It seems the effects of the "Toxic" spell never wear off - the weapon is poisoned forever?

[zookeeper]

I'm running the latest version (0.7.3, BfW 1.10.7). It seems the effects of the "Toxic" spell never wear off - the weapon is poisoned forever?

Thanks for the report! I've uploaded a fixed version (0.7.4) to the add-on server. If you want, I could easily hotfix your savefile too.

[zookeeper]

Finally, BoL is available on the 1.12 / 1.11 add-on server! While the version on the 1.10 add-on server will remain as it is (except for possible bugfixes), the 1.12+ version now features several bigger changes:

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    Version 0.8.0

    - Ported to Wesnoth 1.12.
    - Players will no longer advance to Mage of Light on first levelup, but will
      instead always remain as White Mages.
    - Experience modifier increased from 40% to 60%.
    - New spell school "light" and changes to the combat spell school.
    - The teleport spell will now teleport other adjacent units on your side.
    - All units on a player's side can enter Glimero Caverns.
    - Various bug and typo fixes.

The "light" spell school includes the following spells...

Spoiler:

1. Dazzle "You have +10% defense this turn"
2. Illuminate "Casts light around you for one turn"
3. Illusion "You conjure a dummy mage unit which cannot attack or be hit"
4. Invisibility "You remain invisible for one turn, as long as not adjacent to an enemy"

While the combat school now looks like this...

Spoiler:

1. Enchant "Your main melee weapon does +50% damage this turn"
2. Lure "Enemies will attempt to attack you over any other target, if possible"
3. Stoneskin "You have +20% resistance to blade, pierce and impact this turn"
4. Lightning "You can fire a magical bolt of lightning this turn in addition to your normal attacks"

Overall, things should now be somewhat harder than before, because you no longer level up to a Mage of Light and receive the associated stat boosts and free illumination.

[Bob_The_Mighty]

So I played this scenario through a while back, just before it was ported to 1.12. It was great fun playing it again after so long, I had forgotten so much - and there was plenty of new bits. It was almost like playing a map by someone else for the first time, except it was entirely to my liking cos I made it.

Anyway, I made copious notes. You may have fixed some of this already. Here goes...

TYPOS
1. Gregi: "...we have suffered greatly at its mercy." ("...we have suffered greatly by its sway.")
2. Kaspian: "You won't last long these days without without a sturdy sword-arm or a steady aim"
3. Library book: "advise of his courtiers" ("Advice of his courtiers")
4. On the etching menu, remove the word 'picture'
5. The description of the Flash spell in the advancement menu says "this turn"
6. Lyodus: "color of their blood" ("colour of their blood")
7. "To spread the light and give help to whose in need."
8. "The air in these caverns hang heavy" ("The air in these caverns hangs heavy")
9. "These dwarven bodies seem limpid and lifeless" (These dwarven bodies seem pallid and lifeless"
10. "By coming to me, I have been saved the effort" ("By you coming to me, I have been saved the effort...")
11. "...as if his guilt had all eclipsed the light" ("...as if his guilt had eclipsed all the light")
12. "Why was Romas able to escape when you remained bound by this unatural servitude?"

COSMETIC TWEAKS
1. The hermit should have the bandit portrait (the dialogue mentions a mace)
2. 'Asquith' could be changed to 'Henry Asquith', to tie in with his appearance elsewhere
3. The portrait for Yoll the chef seems inappropriate
4. The description for the illusion spell is too long and creates sideways scrolling
5. An icon for 'give gold' would be nice
6. Some equipment descriptions do not fit one line: platemail, studded tabard, attack opportunity, steady

EXTRA POLISH
1. Poisoned river shouldn't poison a unit that is already poisoned
2. Locket doesn't show on items list, nor does bucket
3. When you lose xp the floating label has two dashes (eg: "--5")
4. Units vanish momentarily when blessed
5. Paulos should say something when returning to Maldor
6. Teleport sound occurs before the flash
7. The red floating label showing how much damage is dealt by the Eklin amulet is shown in negative figures, unlike normal damage (should be "5" rather than "-5")
8. Bardley's message about Max is repeated every time you move adjacent to him
9. Drolix should hit the mage and do damage
10. Romas' tablet means nothing if we've not been to Glimero caverns yet
11. Inside the caverns, at turn start, I got two floating labels showing: "-2 mana" and "+2 mana"
12. Lightning has no sound (and it's not useful at all)

MINOR BUGS
1. Magic trait doesn't update on turn start
2. Enchant doesn't work (on a white mage with gauntlet)
3. Enchant seems generally buggy (doesn't expire sometimes, incorrect values)
4. No dialogue at the well if you have no bucket
5. Placing a second capture/bane placed cancels the first
6. The moveto range for Gladdyon's appearance needs to be reduced by one (I triggered it in top den hex)
7. You are given the option to give Sidney Trott your gold even if you don't have any
8. Lightning has an invalid range
9. Pocko's goblins appeared after the Orc battle, but before dealing with Old Man Morridon
10. The mana waning message repeats for all mages

BUGS
1. If you level as a result of the xp bonus from an ally levelling up, you get no advancement option
2. There's no confirmation when picking up Rilly's bow, and the image remains on the map
3. Toxic poison did not expire (not sure about +1)
4. Reanimate menu shows mages that aren't petrified (but have been previously)
5. Breaking the code doesn't reduce anyone's XP

SUGGESTIONS
1. How about an XP bonus for using spells?
2. Breaking the code: should it affect everyone or just the person responsible?
3. Should shop initial message appear to all players?
4. Maybe reincarnate should cost 35 mana?
5. Scrap spell expiring messages, maybe even mana recovery too?
6. Green titles for other perks (and maybe magic/items)?
7. Should followers be able to cross Lake Jesuro and/or enter Glimero Cavern?
8. Enemies currently get xp from hitting illusions - a good idea?
9. Is capture a bit too expensive?

That's what I call feedback!

[zookeeper]

Huh, that's... quite a list. I've been lazy about doing a proper playthrough myself to find all the little issues, so thanks, this helps a lot.

[batt]

When I explored to the East of Mount Sulphur with snow shoes and extra movement, I could see inside the Mount and was invited in even though I wasn't near the door or inside.

[batt]

Can a Brother get some cheats here? I don't know when it's advantageous to dishonor the Brotherhood.
I'm pretty sure I should overturn the gravestone.
Is there a way to free the elf after the key breaks? Would freeing the elf help with the other elves?
Should the trapped guy go back to Borol to his family or go for training at K Training?
Is it worth paying for training?
Should I take the Scepter a Mount Sulphur?
Is there any reason to slaughter the elves?
Should I loot the bodies or bury them?
How do I get into the Spider Cave?