Dragonguard question

Post by **turin** » March 18th, 2006, 11:04 pm

Why is the Dragonguard's melee attack impact (dragonstaff, 9-3, impact), while both the Thunderguard and the Thunderer have a blade melee attack (dagger, 6-3, blade on the Thunderguard)? This seems to me like a really unnecessary violation of RIPLIB...

toms · Post by **toms** » March 19th, 2006, 5:42 am

I never thought about it, but yes.

But it may need some rebalancing, because the thunderer is currently weak against undead.

Leo · Post by **Leo** » March 19th, 2006, 9:29 am

May be thunderer just have impact melee attack from 1st lvl?

Post by **Dragonking** » March 19th, 2006, 11:39 am

Leo wrote:May be thunderer just have impact melee attack from 1st lvl?

Do dwarves need more advantage agaisnt undeads? I doubt.

Leo · Post by **Leo** » March 19th, 2006, 3:05 pm

Hmm, may be.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » March 19th, 2006, 4:40 pm

Dragonking wrote:Do dwarves need more advantage agaisnt undeads? I doubt.

The Thunderer is already comparatively weak against Undead. I don't think changing from blade to impact on his secondary attack would make much difference.

toms · Post by **toms** » March 19th, 2006, 4:59 pm

But who uses thunderers against undead is quite a fool.

I think Dragonking meant that they would be stronger (and unfair) against undead.

Post by **Soliton** » March 20th, 2006, 10:29 pm

turin wrote:Why is the Dragonguard's melee attack impact (dragonstaff, 9-3, impact), while both the Thunderguard and the Thunderer have a blade melee attack (dagger, 6-3, blade on the Thunderguard)?

Because.

Changed to Dagger now.

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 20th, 2006, 10:42 pm

He's going to need a new animation. The dragonguard swings his gun, hence the impact damage. Not exactly the best dagger animation.

Post by **Soliton** » March 21st, 2006, 2:17 am

SmokemJags wrote:He's going to need a new animation. The dragonguard swings his gun, hence the impact damage. Not exactly the best dagger animation.

Eleazar was so kind and did exactly that. I'm sure there is room for improvement though, so if you want to take a swing at it...

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 21st, 2006, 2:25 am

Eleazar was so kind and did exactly that. I'm sure there is room for improvement though, so if you want to take a swing at it...

I'd have to see what this new attack animation looks like, I assume it will be readily available along with 1.1.2.

I guess you liked what you saw with the skeleton archer death, heh. I actually haven't been doing any animations recently, been working on that orc campaign.
Once the new animation boundaries are set though I'll probably get back into it. I did want to add several frames to that soul shooter someone else made...
Anyways that's unrelated. If Eleazar already made a dagger strike for the dragonguard, I'm sure it's good enough.

Although an idea of giving this dwarven line of 'musketeers' bayonets instead of daggers sounds like it might be fun.

-> What i might be working on · Post by **Eleazar** » March 21st, 2006, 3:30 am

SmokemJags wrote:If Eleazar already made a dagger strike for the dragonguard, I'm sure it's good enough.

Although an idea of giving this dwarven line of 'musketeers' bayonets instead of daggers sounds like it might be fun.

I did the absolute minimum-pasted in a dagger from the thunderer. The dragonguard has 4 frames total. So it's not our finest creation.

The bayonette idea isn't a bad one, especially for the dragonguard with the carved dragon on the front of the gun. It could easily be horned or fanged.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » March 21st, 2006, 8:24 pm

NGIW!

Cuyo Quiz · Post by **Cuyo Quiz** » March 21st, 2006, 8:52 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:NGIW!

Call the melee attack brandistock then, in honor of the switchblade spear of the same name.

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