[interface] Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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[interface] Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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Sometimes I'll restart games or reload games in shrouded maps and I forget that doing so resets the "Delay Shroud Updates" checkbox, and my units end up doing an automove at the beginning of turn that moves the shroud that I can't undo. So I think there should be a way to make "Delay Shroud Updates" a sticky option instead of a temporary one.

And speaking of automoves, I think if if you press U in the middle of them it should immediatly halt them, instead of having to wait until they're all completed before you can undo them.
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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I thought I already replied here, but I don't see it now.

Sounds like a very good idea, I make the same error a lot.
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A straightforward and nonintrusive suggestion that provides a small convenience to a significant number of players. I like it.
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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It's been a year, time to offer up this suggestion again
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TheBladeRoden wrote:It's been a year, time to offer up this suggestion again
Better would be to post a Feature Request. If you want the feature, that's the next step. ( :hmm: Ideally, you'd have done this a year ago; there would have been a chance we'd have seen it by know.)
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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I was just talking to someone about that need for being able to keep shroud delay on or something like that.

How is one to know if something belongs in feature request? How does one even know about that, unless someone like you posts about it?
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Molean wrote:How is one to know if something belongs in feature request? How does one even know about that, unless someone like you posts about it?
Well… more visibility to the process may not be a bad thing here, but it's simply the last step to let the developers know it's a wanted feature.


Generally, here's how things work:
  1. Do a quick search on the forums to see if it's been discussed before, and you may also want to check the bug-tracker as well to see if it's already been proposed.
  2. Start a topic here on the forums after reading the list of Frequently Proposed Ideas and the thread "Giving your idea the best chance of being accepted."
  3. If the idea passes favorably, or there is no staunch objection to it, then you (or someone) may submit a Feature Request at the bug-tracker.

Mods/devs: Maybe we could amend the Giving your idea the best chance of being accepted page with the process like I have detailed here (or as written here, perhaps?)
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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Months ago, Gabba submitted a patch for this and it was committed in trunk (edit: which means that it will be in 1.9 and is already available for svn users)
https://gna.org/patch/?1556
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Alink wrote:Months ago, Gabba submitted a patch for this and it was committed in trunk (edit: which means that it will be in 1.9 and is already available for svn users)
https://gna.org/patch/?1556
Thanks for spreading the news, Alink. I imagine a number of Wesnothians will be happy with this addition.
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Most usefull, IMO. Thanks.
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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TheBladeRoden wrote:Sometimes I'll restart games or reload games in shrouded maps and I forget that doing so resets the "Delay Shroud Updates" checkbox, and my units end up doing an automove at the beginning of turn that moves the shroud that I can't undo. So I think there should be a way to make "Delay Shroud Updates" a sticky option instead of a temporary one.
I would find this useful.
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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So it's been another year and it seems things have moved backwards on this issue, as the delay shroud update checkbox itself has been removed. I don't think planning mode is a good replacement for this feature, as it has its own problems with multi-turn moves.
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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But there is a "Cancel Orders" button on the load screen that solves your original problem a different way.
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Re: Option in preferences for "Delay Shroud Updates"

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That may be true, but DSU is very useful in 1.8 multiplayer games (in which you can’t legally save/reload for obvious reasons) when one wants to try possible moves with the ability to undo regardless of the fog/shroud status.

I haven’t really played MP in 1.9.x but the last time I checked the whiteboard alternative seemed to be over-complicated.

Just my two cents.
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shadowmaster wrote:I haven’t really played MP in 1.9.x but the last time I checked the whiteboard alternative seemed to be over-complicated.

Just my two cents.
I second that. Planning several moves with all the arrows going here and there and overlaying each other is too complicated for a mp game with time limit.
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