Fantasy creatures/historic units not in Wesnoth

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » August 10th, 2007, 6:35 pm

joshudson wrote:You really want to watch that fight? 20 melee strikes and 10 ranged strikes?

My guess is he reversed the values by mistake. 20-2 and 10-1. Is that the case, Velensk?

Post by **Velensk** » August 10th, 2007, 10:30 pm

gah, yeah I meant 2 attacks and 20 dam/ 1 attack and 10 dam.

Edward V Riley · Post by **Edward V Riley** » August 10th, 2007, 10:38 pm

When I first read that post, that's what I thought you meant. But the response of 20 attacks at 2 damage threw me off.

Do you think this should be a recruitable part of the Undead faction or just a special creature for certain things?

Post by **Velensk** » August 10th, 2007, 11:02 pm

Three things
-Recruitable? It is a lvl 3 unit, how would anyone recruit it.
-No I had not intended it to be for mainline I did not even intend to make such a unit.
-I don't think there is art for this unit anywhere so unless someone was realy inspired by the idea (or the stats) I doubt there will ever be such a unit.

Weeksy · Post by **Weeksy** » August 11th, 2007, 3:15 am

In general, the factions for MP have been carefully balanced (the exceptions being a few in EE and almost all in EoM) and adding recruits would be upsetting to this balance. What campaigns could really use would be some cool new unit ideas to branch off of units we already have, such as... Wose Ninjas!

On a more serious note, most new units won't be likely to be recruitable in any campaign unless they are level 0 or 1 and are something the campaign could really use for flavor and not just another unit to fill space. Things like the Mummy however, might be possible to ally with in some of the darker campaigns, or be very useful as bodyguards for your more sinister enemies.

Lorbi · Post by **Lorbi** » August 11th, 2007, 11:02 am

i think 5-2, 4-2 or even 3-3 would fit a weapen that poisens better than 10-1
a way higher chance to poisen your opponent but not that much damage

Post by **Velensk** » August 11th, 2007, 11:27 am

I know I made it so that the curse was "quirky" on pourpose, it is not supposed to be a main attack.

Edward V Riley · Post by **Edward V Riley** » August 12th, 2007, 5:07 am

I meant by recruitable as to having 3 levels of mummy. Truthfully, I was playing Devil's Advocate, as I too only think the Mummy is good for special purposes and not a mainline or recruitable creature.

A guardian of a temple type setting would be one good use, or special bodyguards as you suggested are great uses for the creature. Thanks for mentioning them.

This is just a fun suggestion, but has anyone thought about having Headless horsemen for some undead cavalry?

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 12th, 2007, 4:20 pm

If you play undead on Halloween and kill a horseman with a WC, it will become a special headless horseman like a regular WC but it also has a pumpkin attack

I apologize for my incredibly outlandish lying

Post by **Sgt. Groovy** » August 12th, 2007, 8:45 pm

I propose the Jabberwock as a monster unit, with claws of blade and jaws of crushing damage type, and ranged fire attack from the eyes. Takes double damage if attacked with a vorpal sword.

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 12th, 2007, 9:02 pm

I just realized, Wesnoth has no slime monsters. I'm also fully supportive of the jabberwock

Edward V Riley · Post by **Edward V Riley** » August 13th, 2007, 3:41 am

Didn't know that about the headless horseman, thank you.

Yeah, I noticed there was no slimes in Wesnoth, which makes little sense since Warsong was an influence on it. Lots of slimes in that game. Closest thing we have is the Ooze.

Plant creatures are in short supply as well. Yes, I know of the Wose, but I'm speaking of Mandragoras and the like. A pumpkin stalked creature(I've seen some of these in Medieval, the PS1 action game about an undead knight) would fit ok.

Post by **Sgt. Groovy** » August 13th, 2007, 5:28 am

We already have a mollusc and arachnea units, so how about some crustaceans?

Edward V Riley · Post by **Edward V Riley** » August 13th, 2007, 8:02 am

Large Lobsters, crabs and shrimp? or Lobster or crab men?

Post by **Ken_Oh** » August 13th, 2007, 10:38 am

I'm sure he's talking about adding a giant enemy crab.