How does the ai handle multiple units with canrecruit=yes

[Paulomat4]

Does he treats them like a player would, means he would send each one to a different keep (provided he has enough of them) and recruit with both, or would he just use the leader who is set in the [side] tag to recruit, or use only one of these units with canrecruit=yes randomly as leader?

[Dugi]

If an AI side has two leaders, it instantly crashes with no error messages at the beginning of its turn.

[Paulomat4]

okay, thanks, good to know

[mattsc]

If an AI side has two leaders, it instantly crashes with no error messages at the beginning of its turn.

Uh, what? Under what circumstances and in which version? I have never seen that and I just tried in an MP game (both with 1.10.6 and 1.11.6) in which I spammed a second leader for the Side 2 AI before its first turn. Neither of them crashed.

Now, having said that, until very recently the AI certainly did not handle multiple leaders very well in the way Paulomat4 suggests. flixx added better support for recruiting by multiple leaders as part of his GSoC project this summer. That is now in trunk and will be in 1.11.7. See some notes on multiple leaders on the wiki.

[Paulomat4]

I'm talking about bfw 1.11.6 during a campaign scenario. basically I have a meeting with the Ka'lian and as he consists of three leaders, I was wondering if it was needed for everyone of them to have an own side.
After looking at your link, it seems, that the ai works quite well with them. I'll need to try it out then

[mattsc]

I'm talking about bfw 1.11.6 during a campaign scenario. basically I have a meeting with the Ka'lian and as he consists of three leaders, I was wondering if it was needed for everyone of them to have an own side.
After looking at your link, it seems, that the ai works quite well with them. I'll need to try it out then

It will definitely work in 1.11.7. In 1.11.6, it depends on what exactly you want. If you have the different leaders on their keeps (and can keep them there, for example by keeping them from grabbing villages or attacking), they will all recruit. However, the AI only moves one of the leaders (chosen at random) onto a keep if they are not on -- and that might be one of the leaders who is already on a keep, so you cannot start with 2 leaders on keeps and one off, that (usually) will not work. Also, if the three keeps are part of the same castle, only one of them will recruit (I believe; didn't test that). Of course, that only matters if they have different recruit lists.

And there shouldn't be a difference in behavior between a local MP game and a SP campaign scenario. I just tested it using the former because that was more convenient for me.

[Dugi]

Uh, what? Under what circumstances and in which version?

Happened on an older 1.10 (1.10.1 or maybe 1.10.2). It crashed repeatedly, moving the second leader to an extra side fixed the problem, so it wasn't just a random occurrence.

[mattsc]

Happened on an older 1.10 (1.10.1 or maybe 1.10.2). It crashed repeatedly, moving the second leader to an extra side fixed the problem, so it wasn't just a random occurrence.

Hmm, interesting. Does that still happen with 1.10.7? If so, could you post a test case or instructions how to reproduce this? Even if multiple leaders are not well supported, at least they shouldn't crash things.

[Adamant14]

Using BfW 1.10.x I created once a scenario with up to three leaders for each sides (side 1 too), and it did work fine for me.
I never had noticed any problems.
Though I never tested this scenario on an other BfW version than 1.10.x.

[AI]

Uh, what? Under what circumstances and in which version?

Happened on an older 1.10 (1.10.1 or maybe 1.10.2). It crashed repeatedly, moving the second leader to an extra side fixed the problem, so it wasn't just a random occurrence.

It has been officially supported for a while now. LoW uses the mechanic in single player.

[Dugi]

Happened on an older 1.10 (1.10.1 or maybe 1.10.2).

Strange, I tried it on wesnoth 1.10.2 and it worked fine.

Maybe it was the mystery segfault bug, that keeps happening repeatedly in seemingly random occasions, in a reproducible way, but with no logical reason. I should have kept my campaign campaign when it had problems with this, but I was too focused on uploading a fix.

[jeeree]

I did the same thing in version 1.10.7 in a multiplayer game, and the result was: the AI had 2 leaders, one stood there and did nothing except for capturing villages within move radius, while the other one did everything. not sure why..